On Sun, 27 May 2001, Rich Ulrich wrote:

> > I don't see how RTM can explain the average change in a prepost design
> 
>  - explanation:  whole experiment is conducted on patients
> who are at their *worst*  because the flare-up is what sent 
> them to a doctor.
ok

>  - I'm not sure what that last phrase means... "both ...."
> 30% or so of acutely depressed patients will get quite a bit better.
depressions are self-limiting;  people get better unless they kill
themselves

> The experience of being in a research trial, by the way, seems 
> to produce a placebo effect, according to what people have told me.
> (I think that careful scientists attribute that one to the extra time
> and attention given to those subjects.)
This is the historic psychological explanation.  The interest in any
experiment is not a comparison with what the S's were before but
with whatt they would have been like absent the intervention ie with a
placebo (or alternate treatment)



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