[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Penley, Julie) wrote in message 
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> Thank you, Robert; I couldn't agree more.  My understanding is that the

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> Julie A. Penley, Ph.D.
> Evaluation Coordinator
> The University of Texas at El Paso
> El Paso, TX 79968
> phone: (915) 747-5642
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: dissertation results
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> Just a quick two-cents worth.
> 
> Why is it that we often see this type of request for help?  How is it that a
> 
> student can get this far without receiviving proper help from his/her 
> dissertation committe and/or from the statistics department of the school?
> 
> I can't believe that a school can let a student simply go out and collect 
> data without the student fully knowing what specific analysis is to be 
> applied and for what reason.
> 
> Any comments or am I old-fashioned?
> 
> GOD BLESS AMERICA
> 
> Dr. Robert C. Knodt
> 4949 Samish Way, #31
> Bellingham, WA 98226
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mercy, I hope y'all aren't aiming this at the original poster.
Anyways, maybe part of the "problem" is that some fields think
they do need "fancy" statistics and models (you know. 
"I NEED P-VALUES, GIMME P-VALUES", etc.) when, IMO, simple
summaries will suffice.  Reminds me when, only about 5 years
ago, when I was working in the stat. consulting lab in grad
school, a grad student in forestry or something like that came
in during open hours and wanted to know what the correct test was
to show that a new species of some tree existed above a certain
altitude.  I asked her, 'you mean you've actually identified it
about xxx altitude?' to which she said yes.  So, of course, I told
her, uh, that's sufficient proof.  Easiest client I ever had!
.
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