Gus, It would be possible to subsample any data set in order to produce any effect desired. Until I know how you find the subset, I can not know if that action is removing or obscuring the causal pattern.
Your requirement that I accept blanket inheritance is not intellectually honest. We are dealing with numbers. We can change them by selecting them in different ways. I am willing to make explicit how I sample and why. You are not. You are acting like a child who is picking a fight in order to blame the victim. You want me to look unreasonable for not agreeing with your mysterious demands. I ask for clarification and you say its time to end the conversation. Well, you are ending it at a time that CR is winning. Rather than admit CR is valid, you drum up some cheap excuse to withdraw. That is intellectually dishonest and indicative of a poor education. Explain what you are doing and do not make highly nebulous statements expecting me to agree. Any pattern can be disinherited by fiddling with data. Define your terms, philosopher, or be dismissed with the mystics and sophists. And you should care, Gus. A lot of people's lives are affected by statistics. It is not just a game. Its real. Bill "Gus Gassmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I am not twisting you words. The data speak for themselves, at least when we > > bother to explain how we get them. I have repeatedly asked you to show us > > how you calculated your subsample and you are being evasive, pretending that > > I am too dense to see what you did. Does you method fill out the corners of > > the cross tabulation of x1 and x2? Are the intervals from which you sampled, > > equal across the ranges of the variables? > > I am not being evasive, but I need to know whether you agree that subsamples > inherit from the larger sample their causality. To wit: If I have a sample in > which y is caused by x1 and x2, is the same thing true of the subsample? > In your interpretation of the term "causality". > > I don't care at this point about CR or anything else. This is a philosophical > question. If you agree with this notion of inheritance, then there is a point > to continue. If you say inheritance does not hold, or it depends on the way > in which the subsample is derived, then your definition of causality differs > from mine. I don't care if it does, but then I will just concede that we > agree to disagree and leave it at that. > > Which is it? > . . ================================================================= Instructions for joining and leaving this list, remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES, and archives are available at: . http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ . =================================================================
