Hi Shani,

I am not a videographer or a script writer, but I would like to help with
this project in all ways I can. I can provide helping hands in transcribing
and subtitling the video.

-Netha

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 5:36 AM, Floor Koudijs <[email protected]>
wrote:

> /me looks at Sara??? :)
>
>
> Floor Koudijs
>
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> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Shani <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Floor.
>>
>> So great to have the team support this! Loved everyone's ideas and really
>> happy to collaborate with such a great bunch.
>>
>> Naturally, I'm in for the general video production, but would love to
>> work on this with maybe 1-2 more volunteers. So, who's in..? :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Shani.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Floor Koudijs <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I'm really loving this discussion. So happy to see you all chime in and
>>> share your ideas about what kind of format would be helpful for the monthly
>>> Collab meetings.
>>>
>>> Shani, thanks for suggesting the idea of a showcase. I love it. Let's
>>> make sure we find a balance between a 1 minute pitch (which is entirely too
>>> short to do anything justice) and a 15 minute exposé, which may be
>>> perceived as too long by some people. I also really like Melina's outline,
>>> and would like to encourage all of you to think about these questions for
>>> framing this:
>>> * Why is this interesting or relevant for an international audience?
>>> * What can others learn from this experience?
>>> * What was the major eye-opener / lesson you got from this experience?
>>> * Highlight one challenge and one creative solution you came up with
>>> (and I can keep going with these kinds of questions).
>>>
>>> Thanks as well for suggesting a general education-related video. That
>>> sounds really awesome. I did speak to Victor about something like that a
>>> long time ago, and much has changed since then, so it's probably time to
>>> dust off that conversation and see if we can get it moving. Since this is a
>>> request that came from our Collab members, I would be so very happy if
>>> (some of) you can take this forward. We would be happy to provide guidance
>>> as needed. I'm also happy to have an initial conversation with Victor to
>>> see whether he would be able to do this, or whether it might make more
>>> sense to go with the external group Sara suggested. Who of you Collab
>>> members would like to take the lead on this? (and let's put it in
>>> Phabricator then!)
>>>
>>> I look forward to a great meeting in December!
>>>
>>>
>>> Floor Koudijs
>>>
>>> Senior Manager, Wikipedia Education Program
>>>
>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>
>>> +1.415.839.6885  x6806 (landline)
>>>
>>> +1.415.692.5289 (cell phone)
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>>>
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>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:39 AM, Àlex Hinojo <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> sorry for the missquote, I was meaning exactly the same :-)
>>>>
>>>> 2015-11-30 10:33 GMT+01:00 Shani <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to everyone who has already participated in this small
>>>>> "brainstorming" with me. :-)
>>>>> Just a quick clarification, I was talking about recording *only* the
>>>>> project showcase,  not the whole session. I believe it's good and 
>>>>> important
>>>>> to have an informal part, where peolpe are free to ask, share etc off
>>>>> record, without worrying about being recording, for exactly the reasons
>>>>> Sara mentioned.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Shani..
>>>>> On 30 Nov 2015 11:04, "Sara Mörtsell" <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great progress guys!! Melina's outline feels just like something we
>>>>>> can make good use out of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have some thoughts about recording the meetings. Generally, this is
>>>>>> great for all the reasons Shani says and it's in line with the open and
>>>>>> sharing spirit of our community and movement. One thing however  I've
>>>>>> learnt from facilitating MOOCs is that it can have a censoring effect on
>>>>>> the participants, in this case that would be on ourselves. If I feel like
>>>>>> I'm taking too much of a risk when I talk about the downsides or mistakes
>>>>>> in my projects, then I might go for simply leaving them out of the
>>>>>> discussions, missing a good learning opportunity for everyone. Perhaps we
>>>>>> could record parts of the meeting recorded? I don't know, just thought 
>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>> share my thoughts on that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Video! YES! And if it's a matter of budget etc. we should also
>>>>>> remember Simply Show Foundation (who where at Wikimania and perhaps some 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> you attended their workshop?),
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/simpleshowfoundation. Ilya who was
>>>>>> their representative joined us at the Education pre-conference so he
>>>>>> already has some concepts of what we do and why etc. They are a 
>>>>>> non-profit
>>>>>> part of a corporate and they do stuff for other non-profits at low 
>>>>>> costs, I
>>>>>> know they're producing the Wikipedia 15 film so you'll see more about 
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> once that film is out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward to our next meeting!
>>>>>> Sara
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-11-29 17:39 GMT+01:00 Shani <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, I love all the ideas, and even more so that there's a discussion
>>>>>>> about doing something like that.
>>>>>>> Still curious to learn what other collab members think about it, as
>>>>>>> well as WMF EDU team. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Shani.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Melina Masnatta <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shani
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I love your ideas, I think both of them are very useful J
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I´m agree with Vojtěch and Netha.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the case of the showcase a specific project, maybe we can share
>>>>>>>> before links, or make a very short infographyc (exist many free digital
>>>>>>>> tools like picktochart <http://piktochart.com/>). I think we can
>>>>>>>> prepare too a questions or a form to be more specific…for example:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Why do you think it´s important to share this case?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) Can be scalable?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3) About results and suggestions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4) How can we get more information if we are interesting to know
>>>>>>>> more?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like the exercise of pitching
>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch_(filmmaking)>, we can do it
>>>>>>>> in a very short time ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hugs,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Meli
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2015-11-29 9:44 GMT-03:00 Netha Hussain <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Shani,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Thank you for suggesting the creation of a video! I think a video
>>>>>>>>> is going to be a great resource, especially for outreach. I love the 
>>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>>> of being able to show a video to inspire students (and faculty) to 
>>>>>>>>> join the
>>>>>>>>> Wikipedia Education Program. A cost-effective solution for this would 
>>>>>>>>> be to
>>>>>>>>> have the respective chapters and liaisons film the video locally. The
>>>>>>>>> interviews could be done during Collab meetings or during Wikimania 
>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>> in Italy, when most of us are likely to get together.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In mid- December, we in India will have a regional Wikimedia
>>>>>>>>> conference for Malayalam (ml) Wikimedians. We are anticipating a 
>>>>>>>>> handful of
>>>>>>>>> students and teachers as participants. I am thrilled by the idea of
>>>>>>>>> videographing them,recording their experiences about how they started 
>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>> Wikipedia as a resource for education. If we can lay down a plan for 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> video by early December, I will be able to get relevant shots from 
>>>>>>>>> India
>>>>>>>>> for adding on to the video.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>> Netha
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Shani <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your input, Vojtech!
>>>>>>>>>> I agree regarding trickiness of filming various programs, but it
>>>>>>>>>> can be worked around creatively, by filming locally, interviewing 
>>>>>>>>>> online
>>>>>>>>>> and editing everything later to one video. The bigger challenge I 
>>>>>>>>>> see is
>>>>>>>>>> deciding what goes into such a video.. But before we get there, 
>>>>>>>>>> let's see
>>>>>>>>>> if others agree it's necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As for 10 min vs. 15+5 for questions -- no doubt, 10 is better
>>>>>>>>>> than nothing. However, the reason for propoding a longer time is to 
>>>>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>>>>> people time to get into the details of *how* exactly they run their
>>>>>>>>>> programs.
>>>>>>>>>> It seems to me that we talk a lot about best practices and
>>>>>>>>>> documentation, but bedises metrics (that the FDC also requires), the 
>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>> of details is such that if you really want to understand how a 
>>>>>>>>>> specific
>>>>>>>>>> program works, actually learn from their experience and say try to
>>>>>>>>>> "duplicate" the experience, you won't know what to do because all 
>>>>>>>>>> you know
>>>>>>>>>> it that "X had a great experience with 5th grade pupils", "Y created 
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> successful university course", "Z have an inspiring senior citizen
>>>>>>>>>> program". In other words, I find that other than this shallow 
>>>>>>>>>> knowledge
>>>>>>>>>> *of* programs, the actual knowlege of *how* they really run is very 
>>>>>>>>>> little.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now, it may as well be something that only bothers me. If so,
>>>>>>>>>> I'll continue to do what I can on my personal capacity. But if it's 
>>>>>>>>>> not,
>>>>>>>>>> and other share the need for more details, then let's do something 
>>>>>>>>>> about -
>>>>>>>>>> let's collabotatively think of standars for effectively reporting a 
>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>> / initiative and change the discourse. These videos can be a step in 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> right direction. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Shani.
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Shani, thanks for your work on this!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As for the in-depth discussions, my view is that 20 minutes is
>>>>>>>>>> too much to explain and discuss a single program. I'd give it a 
>>>>>>>>>> maximum of
>>>>>>>>>> 10 minutes but that's just my personal view.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would be very nice to have and official promotional video
>>>>>>>>>> featuring the global education activities. At the same, the global 
>>>>>>>>>> nature
>>>>>>>>>> of our projects means that it will take a lot of time and cost a lot 
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> money to capture more than just 1-2 programs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Vojtěch Dostál
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> předseda rady / chairman of the board
>>>>>>>>>> Wikimedia Česká republika / Wikimedia Czech Republic
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.wikimedia.cz
>>>>>>>>>> Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/Wikimedia.CR> | Twitter
>>>>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/Wikimedia_CR> | Newsletter
>>>>>>>>>> <http://eepurl.com/FsHJr>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2015-11-28 16:42 GMT+01:00 Shani <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Collab enthusiasts!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1 - I've just sent out a doodle for the coming *2 hangouts for
>>>>>>>>>>> December & January*.
>>>>>>>>>>> Since part of Dec includes holidays and some of us will be
>>>>>>>>>>> vacationing, it would be good to schedule these two dates advance.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please fill out the doodle by next Saturday (Dec 6th) so we can
>>>>>>>>>>> schedule a final meeting time as soon as possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2 - Following a remark Paola made during our last meeting about
>>>>>>>>>>> a need for an in-depth discussions about various topics, I'd like to
>>>>>>>>>>> propose using our monthly meeting in a new way. I was thinking we 
>>>>>>>>>>> can use
>>>>>>>>>>> the first 20 minutes of each meeting to showcase a specific project 
>>>>>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>>>>> initiative from around the world. Something in the lines of a 15 
>>>>>>>>>>> minute
>>>>>>>>>>> explanation about the project and 5 minutes for questions.
>>>>>>>>>>> I believe having more than a minute to share our experiences
>>>>>>>>>>> will benefit everyone.
>>>>>>>>>>> I also suggest that at least these parts of our meeting will be
>>>>>>>>>>> recorded and then uploaded as a YouTube video. Recording doesn't 
>>>>>>>>>>> have to be
>>>>>>>>>>> via "hangout on air". We can simply use a screen-capture software 
>>>>>>>>>>> for that
>>>>>>>>>>> part of the session. The idea is that we have a growing database of
>>>>>>>>>>> wiki-edu case reports, some might probably be best practices, but 
>>>>>>>>>>> even if
>>>>>>>>>>> they are not, people can learn from anything that happens, from 
>>>>>>>>>>> things that
>>>>>>>>>>> do not work as well as things that do work. In short, videos are an
>>>>>>>>>>> important educational tool. There is no reason why we should 
>>>>>>>>>>> document only
>>>>>>>>>>> in a written form on outreach. We can use other sources and link 
>>>>>>>>>>> them on
>>>>>>>>>>> outreach. I think this is something practical the collab can do to 
>>>>>>>>>>> promote
>>>>>>>>>>> awareness.
>>>>>>>>>>> *What do you say..? Is this something you'd like us to do during
>>>>>>>>>>> our meetings?*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 - And one last suggestion, which is *practically directed at
>>>>>>>>>>> the WMF team, but again, I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts about*
>>>>>>>>>>> -- with Education been such a focus globally in many chapters and 
>>>>>>>>>>> the WMF
>>>>>>>>>>> itself, would it be possible to harness Victor, the WMF's official
>>>>>>>>>>> story-teller, to create a sort of "formal" video about what the Wiki
>>>>>>>>>>> Education program is? Similar to what was done for Wikipedia Zero, 
>>>>>>>>>>> or a few
>>>>>>>>>>> days ago for the Erasmus prize? I think it's something we really 
>>>>>>>>>>> need and
>>>>>>>>>>> can be used worldwide (with subtitles) to promote what it is that 
>>>>>>>>>>> we are
>>>>>>>>>>> doing here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with me with all my thoughts today.. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great weekend, everyone!
>>>>>>>>>>> Shani.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Shani Evenstein (via Doodle) <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shani Evenstein invites you to participate in the Doodle poll
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scheduling the Wiki-EDU Collab Monthly Meetings: Dec 2015 + Jan."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://doodle.com/?tmail=poll_invitecontact_participant_invitation_with_message&tlink=logo>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shani Evenstein ([email protected]) invites you to
>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the Doodle poll "Scheduling the Wiki-EDU Collab
>>>>>>>>>>>> Monthly Meetings: Dec 2015 + Jan."
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Collab members,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This Doodle is for us to schedule our next *2* Wiki-EDU Collab
>>>>>>>>>>>> Monthly Meeting, for both December 2015 & January 2016.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please mark the dates you can make it so we can set the time in
>>>>>>>>>>>> advance.
>>>>>>>>>>>> These meetings are not mandatory, but we would love to meet as
>>>>>>>>>>>> many of you as possible online.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shani & the WMF's EDU team.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Participate now
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>>>>>>>>> Student of Medicine and Surgery
>>>>>>>>> Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode
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>>>>>> *Med vänliga hälsningar, *
>>>>>> *Sara Mörtsell*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sara Mörtsell | Education Manager, Wikimedia Sverige
>>>>>> <http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida>
>>>>>> [email protected] | +4673-383 26 70
>>>>>>
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