I also wondered if there is a VE-oriented training somewhere. It seems there isn't - because VE is in a state of flux.
Because Czech Republic uses VE to train students we are in a great need of such a training, and are currently asking for a small contract to write a simple wiki-based tutorial, mostly based on Wikipedia:Training module <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Training/For_students> for students. If there is a Hebrew VE training could someone please link it? It would be lovely to see it, at least to get some inspiration. thanks Vojtěch Dostál místopředseda / vice-chairman Wikimedia Česká republika / Wikimedia Czech Republic http://www.wikimedia.cz Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/Wikimedia.CR> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/Wikimedia_CR> | Newsletter <http://eepurl.com/FsHJr> 2015-02-22 14:02 GMT+01:00 Leigh Thelmadatter <[email protected]>: > I still do not use VE in my training (despite having 200+ students working > on three campuses) because there are too many things it cannot do. I dont > have time to constantly play with it to see if it is now good enough to > use. I will likely not use it until it is accepted by the wider community. > However, the lack of a viable VE does make scalability very very difficult, > especially with older teachers who adjust less to idea of coding in any > form. > > +1 on the frustrations for those with new accounts. I understand the need > for protections with new accounts, but why in the heck does the captcha > "error" message appear at the top and the captcha itself at the bottom? > Students only see the red "error" and I have to tell them to go to the > bottom and its only a captcha. In addition, because we use wireless with > the same IP address, we get errors when I am having a class move text into > sandboxes or copy/paste finished articles into the mainspace. Most students > cant use the move function as they dont have enough errors. Even if they > did, using it would render the sandbox worthless because of the redirect. > Add to this trigger-happy bibliotecarios in es.wiki who erase student work > with little or no explanation, the last two times being wrongly done. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 11:55:31 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Editor training with VisualEditor > > On 22 February 2015 at 10:33, Filip Maljković <[email protected]> wrote: > > It is my impression that the VE should be ideally made in such a way that > a tutorial isn't really necessary. But I guess we don't live in an ideal > world :) > > That is the "ideal world according to Silicon Valley", not the world we > inhabit as Wikimedians. > > The projects want useful content, and how people write for Wikipedia > matters much more than how they do on Facebook. The world of no manuals, no > help pages, no support is not one in which we can easily grow our community > of productive Wikimedians. > > And the way the WMF releases software makes life very hard for trainers. > > It is literally true that you need to check the night before giving a > workshop, with a new account, what the current experience for a newcomer to > Wikipedia is (capchas, strange messages, moving buttons and all). > > I believe the latest WMUK training leaflet takes the VE as a given. I know > their older leaflet on images mentions it, in a way found confusing to a > newcomer (as I found - she was a Computer Officer). > > Charles > > > _______________________________________________ Education mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > _______________________________________________ > Education mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > >
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