Hello Plyd, This concerns has been debated with the legal team at the WMF and are unfounded. First of all, now we have underage editors on Wikipedia, and their data is safe: you don't need to give your e-mail to make an account and even if you give it, you CAN'T have an e-mail account on most platforms if you are under 13 years old. Children with an e-mail account MUST have their parents supervision or a family account, so in the very remote case that someone writes you a message from Wikipedia, it should be handled by their family.
On the other hand, children and adults are also mixed now on Vikidia. Basque Vikidia was written only by adults, for example. Now, with Txikipedia, adults and children are writting it together with zero problems, and lot of confidence. You also mention that there are legal concerns for contributing to a wiki if you are under 13 years old... well, as far as we know, and the legal team has said... there aren't. As we are not asking for personal data to contribute to Wikimedia, we have now people under 13 years old contributing, and it will continue happening as long as we don't forbid it asking for birth data certificates. The problem arises in the first sentence of this e-mail: "Most of you must know Vikidia,". Well, most of us maybe (and not very sure of that) but most of the readers definitively not. Wikipedia is the most consulted Encyclopedia by children, so we have to face how to give this children content suitable for them, because "Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge." Bolds are mine, cursives not. Children are also human, and our goal is giving knowledge to every human, so we must provide knowledge to children. I defend abundancy. Having Vikidia and Txikipedia is better than having only Vikidia or Txikipedia and is definitively better than anything. But we can start thinking out of the box. Basque Vikidia wasn't a known project, even by educators; Txikipedia is. We had more than 59.000 visits last year to Txikipedia articles, and this is a lot for a minority language. Txikipedia main page is every day one of the ten most visited pages in Basque. And we are just starting. We can imagine a future where we provide knowledge for different ages and abilities within the same platform. We are doing it, and you can also do it. thanks Galder ________________________________ From: Plyd <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 3:59 PM To: Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Vikidia opening in Japanese and Portugese Hello Galder, Txikipedia tab way may work on small communities, but it poses several problems to larger communities, where children contributors are melted with adults from wikipedia and not taken care of properly, and they don't feel like it's "their wiki". Also, Txikipedia tab lacks children protection (for example you can send a private email to a child on Txikipedia...). Finally there are legal concerns about children <13y-old contributions on a US-based wiki without their explicit parent authorization (USA have a very specific way of handling it). I think a better way of handling it would be to integrate better Vikidia and Wikipedia, but keeping them separated. Nothing prevents adding a tab on Vikidia and Wikipedia neither going further. I think the question is similar to integrate Wiktionary on Wikipedia. Also, we are working to improve the design of Vikidia. Txikipedia have shown us that we can do something really handsome :) Best, Plyd On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 3:24 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Great news! Basque Wikipedia has a better (as statistics show) approach to this with Txikipedia (https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Txikipedia:Azala), creating articles INSIDE Wikipedia. Children now can read the full article or the children version of the article. I would suggest other languages to have this tab system, the results are great! Sincerely Galder ________________________________ From: Education <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Houcemeddine A. Turki <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 2:55 PM To: Plyd; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Vikidia opening in Japanese and Portugese Dear Mr., I thank you for your answer. I ask if you are interesting in launching an Arabic edition of Vikidia. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki (he/him) Medical Student, Faculty of Medicine of Sfax, University of Sfax, Tunisia Undergraduate Researcher, UR12SP36 GLAM and Education Coordinator, Wikimedia TN User Group Member, WikiResearch Tunisia Member, Wiki Project Med Member, WikiIndaba Steering Committee Member, Wikimedia and Library User Group Steering Committee Co-Founder, WikiLingua Maghreb Founder, TunSci ____________________ +21629499418 -------- Message d'origine -------- De : Plyd <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date : 2019/06/19 13:06 (GMT+01:00) À : [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Objet : [Wikimedia Education] Vikidia opening in Japanese and Portugese Dear Education community, Most of you must know Vikidia, the children encyclopedia since we sometimes send messages here (in a few words, it works like Wikipedia, but with a few adaptations to be suitable for children). The 8-13 y-old encyclopedia grows fast in French, Spanish and Italian, a bit less in English with the competition of simple. We regularly open new languages when we have a group of contributors motivated. Currently we have a group in Japanese and Portuguese. Do you have contacts of persons interested for the start? or contacts who may know future contributors? 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