"Miles Lott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> Lars Kneschke wrote:
>>If you don't have the time to care of our project, then please step back.
>>Other people have the needed time.</pre>
>>
> The amount of time we each have for the project is not the issue.
>Sometimes you can really do too much, and I think that is evident. Also,
>not everyone gets paid to work on egroupware, and our opinion is just as
>valid as those who do. Think again about my perspective.
>
I don't think that ignoring the problems is the right way.
>
>>
>>Ralf asked if someone will object if he adds Nigel to our project.
>>Corneliusand me objected as Nigel massively offended us and still did not
>>apologizefor his actions. Ralf simply ignored our opinion. And you
>>too.</pre>
>>
> People are going to offend one another at times. Since neither of the
>other two admins were there, we cannot verify what happened.
>
It's totally unimportant if you can verify it or not. Of course you can
not. We stated that we don't want to have Nigel in the project and Ralf
simply ignored it. Either the admins respect the opinions of the current
project members or not. If you ignore our opinions, then we don't need any
admins.
And why did Nigel to become a project member? He can send his patches to
Ralf or to his employe. He never commited any patch so far. There was
absolutly no need to make him a project member, other then to offend us.
>
>>
>>As long as the admins don't listen to the developers as the
>>ultimateinstance in our project, the constitution can be dropped into the
>>trashcan.If the admins don't take care of the constitution, why should I?
>>Why shouldI accept these admins anymore?I don't need admins which don't
>>care of my interests, but only care aboutthere own interests. As admin it
>>is your job to find a solution allprojectmembers can live with. But you
>>even did't try to do this.</pre>
>>
> Just because we do not agree with you does not mean that we are not acting
>with consideration to all project members. As I said before, there is
>nothing about this issue that is affecting your ability to work within the
>project. It will be considered on our schedule and not on yours. It is
>not possible for that to occur now, so you will have to be patient. By
>the way, it was known that Ralf would be going on vacation soon after the
>activities of December 2007.
Now you have destroyed any faith in you. It was your decission to solve one
problem after the other. We could have solve this problem in December. We
could also solve this problem now, as the facts are very clear.
But it's ok. Hopefully you(the admins) will at least be able to prepare a
list of the current project members with voting rights. It's time so elect
new admins, who really take care for the project.
--
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