Exactly. For example many of the compliance checks had to do with 1.0 things
that have been deprecated. What does it mean to fail such a test? In our
case it means that we have also deprecated that functionality in line with
the 1.1 spec!
Had the evaluator engaged us in an cooperative process, we would have guided
them in the right direction. We wouldn't try to control the outcome of the
tests, but we surely would make sure the tests were correct before agreeing
to public disclosure.
-Chiris.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dan benanav [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 2:13 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: EJB Server Comparison (WebLogic, WebSphere,
> NetDynamics,GemS tone)
>
> As an independent observer I can understand both sides. Looking at the
> evaluation that prompted this discussion I noticed that it was very
> misleading.
> The authors for example mention nothing of EJB 1.1 vs EJB 1.0.
>
> So the question is how can a company protect themselves from potentially
> damaging evaluations?
>
>
> dan
>
> Gaus Kevin D wrote:
>
> > In other words, the restrictions allow a vendor to prevent the results
> of a
> > fair evaluation from being released if the results make them look bad.
> >
> > Kevin.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Raber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 11:34 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: EJB Server Comparison (WebLogic, WebSphere, NetDynamics,
> > GemS tone)
> >
> > Most vendors include in there licenses restrictions in how detailed
> > information for their products can be publicly distributed. It does not
> mean
> > that the vendor won't allow public release of information, but that the
> > vendor retains to right to grant or deny the permission to such release
> of
> > information.
> >
> > In the age of "click licenses" we probably don't bother to check such
> things
> > in our haste.
> >
> > -Chris.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tim Endres [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 12:46 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: EJB Server Comparison (WebLogic, WebSphere,
> NetDynamics,
> > > GemStone)
> > >
> > > > > So while GemStone is pleased with the intent behind the work at
> > > Charles
> > > > > University, we are disappointed that they didn't open a dialog
> with
> > > our
> > > > > company or with the industry in order to ensure relevancy and
> accuracy
> > > in
> > > > > their report, and to abide by the terms of our license agreement.
> > > >
> > > > That last phrase kind of slid into the rest of this.
> > > > What licensing terms does an academic group attempting to
> > > > measure performance violate ?
> > >
> > > That statement was disturbing to me as well.
> > >
> > > tim.
> > >
> > >
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