I have found JBuilder to also be extremely fragile. It may just be the way that we are using it or something as I know it is a very popular IDE. But at the moment it is one of the greatest impediments to my development. I have used CodeWarrior, Forte and Kawa in the past. I have found all these to be more reliable than JBuilder (though not as feature rich) So far my best experience has been with Kawa which is a pretty simple IDE. But it is reliable, easy to use and does what you expect. You can spend your time on your code rather than in the bowels of the IDE trying to to work out what is causingthe latest null pointer execprion, or scratching your head at your out of memory exception when you have 1/2 GB of the stuff and are not running anything else, or why it wont build your project when javac or jikes does it no problem.
Cheers Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 16. November 2001 23:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Best IDE ? Agreed. I have always despised it. I love JBuilder, but it is expensive. NetBeans or Forte or whatever they call it is very nice, but I still cannot figure it all out. //Nicholas --- Raymond Blum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Beaware- I have been a big fan of WebGain Studio but > have found it to be > continually "fragile" in release after release. > Some problems were major > such as corrupt projects resulting in loss of > deployment descriptor info > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Omar Tazi [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 5:18 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Best IDE ? > > > > If you are targeting Weblogic or iPlanet (or even > Tomcat), your best bet > > is > > > > WebGain Studio. JSP or any type of debugging is > great and very easy to > > use. > > > > -Omar > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carlos Duque [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:52 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Best IDE ? > > > > > > Swaminathan, > > > > Depends. If coding for WAS 3.5.x, VAJ EE has some > advantages because of > > the tight coupling between the two products, but > the Smalltalk code > > underlying VAJ renders it rather limited and > inappropriate (unit testing > > is > > essentially a contrived simulation that frequently > produces inaccurate > > results). Moreover, it is really limited in > complying with full J2EE > > specs, but then so is WAS. > > > > If coding for WAS 4.0 is the proposition, a far > better product than WAS > > 3.5.x, then of the currently available IDEs VAJ > should be your last choice > > for the reasons stated. JBuilder Enterprise > Edition would be vastly > > better, and Forte 3.0 (either Internet if one does > need the EJB templates > > or Enterprise Editon if one prefers them) would > also be superior. > > Although > > with Forte for Java 3.0 Enterprise Edition, unit > testing might be more > > difficult in the absence of a WAS plug in. > > > > However, the WebSphere Studio Application > Developer, which is currently > > available only in Preview Edition (i.e., beta), > unless you are among the > > really fortunate few, is hands down the best > product for WAS 4.0. It is > > really well integrated, has a real WAS test > environment, is geared for > > J2EE > > development-- the paradigm is different from the > other IDEs, which are > > essentially patterned after the MS Visual Studio > and its ancestors. It is > > due shortly for full release. It would be well > worth the wait, and well > > worth testing. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Carlos > > > > At 12:17 AM 10/18/01, Swaminathan K N wrote: > > >Hi , > > > > > >Although its slightly off topic, I would like to > ask this. How does the > > IDEs > > >for Java like IBM Visual Age for Java , Borland J > Builder compare. Which > > is > > >more suited for J2EE development and what are the > strengths and > > weaknesses > > >of these products ??? > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Swaminathan K.N. > > > > > > >========================================================================= > > == > > >To unsubscribe, send email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the > > body > > >of the message "signoff EJB-INTEREST". 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