People can try and use marvel and thus sense for free in their dev environment. If they want to use it with a production cluster they need a license for that cluster. It doesn't matter how many developers are using it.
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:14 PM, ppearcy <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > Since Marvel requires a license for production usage, does this mean in > order to use the Marvel bundled Sense against a production instance > requires you to buy a license? > I just got out of a meeting where I told a bunch of people to go download > sense off the chrome store. Whoops :) > Thanks! > Paul > On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:14:44 PM UTC-4, kimchy wrote: >> >> Sense started as a weekend project, and Boaz did not place a license on >> it. As you mentioned, this license effectively applies: >> http://choosealicense.com/no-license/. We consulted our lawyers, who >> specialize in open source, and changing the license to open source one is >> complex, expensive, and requires a lot of resources. The reason is that its >> not only getting the committers agreement, but also reaching all possible >> users and have them agree to it (or at least showing big investment in >> trying to do so, + a rather large time window to allow for people to >> object). >> >> When Boaz created Sense, he was not employed by Elasticsearch. Obviously >> any project started by our employees has a clear license (as you can notice >> with the many projects we created). >> >> Regarding Marvel: >> >> - You are only required to pay for it when used in production. >> - You don’t have to be a support customer of Elasticsearch the company, >> you can buy a license for Marvel easily on the web. We made it super cheap >> since we think its something that a lot of people will find benefit from. >> >> On Apr 1, 2014, at 17:00, Ivan Brusic <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> wrote: >> >> I personally do not require an open source license for Marvel/Sense, but I >> would like to see an explicit clarification about the use of Marvel in this >> scenario. Marvel does require a license to use and that would apply to any >> of its subsystems. Then again, Sense does not have a license, which means >> its use is also somewhat restricted. >> >> Sense is an excellent tool and users dependency on the tool is quite >> apparent from this thread. :) >> >> I haven't packaged a Chrome plugin in about 3 years. Not only has my >> memory faded, but I would assume the mechanism has changed in our fast >> changing world of development. It would be a fun exercise to attempt to do >> it again. >> >> Cheers, >> Ivan >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Tim S <[email protected] <javascript:>>wrote: >> >>> @kimchy the whole reason for me asking these questions is that sometimes >>> a customer is using elasticsearch but they don't (yet) have a support >>> contract, but don't consider themselves "in development" either, and thus >>> wouldn't allow me to use Marvel. Yes, there are other tools for poking >>> around, but sense is invaluable for constructing complicated queries etc >>> quickly. In this situation they wouldn't let me install a chrome plugin >>> either, but sense works nicely as an elasticsearch plugin too. >>> >>> So, if sense (the abandoned version on github) had some kind of >>> permissive licence, I could turn up on customer site and use sense to poke >>> around. >>> Ideally, it would have a licence like AL2 which would allow me to modify >>> it if necessary. >>> >>> I realise that you don't want updates pushed back to the version of sense >>> on github because those changes are helping you to make money from Marvel, >>> I understand that. But if the abandoned version of sense did have an >>> appropriate licence, it would allow us to use the current version - it's >>> still useful even if it's not kept up to date. I might even be tempted to >>> try and keep it up to date in my spare time. But clearly I can't do this >>> unless it has a licence that allows me to do it. >>> >>> Glad to see I'm not the only person thinking along these lines. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:15:07 AM UTC+1, Jörg Prante wrote: >>>> >>>> +1 for Sense standalone packaging >>>> +1 for Sense in Chrome Web Store >>>> >>>> Sense is used here all the time, it's essential. >>>> >>>> I have also forked the code in case Sense goes away, hoping for a FOSS >>>> license. >>>> >>>> Not that I'm fluid in writing browser plugins, but if I find time, I am >>>> not afraid of the learning curve. >>>> >>>> Jörg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "elasticsearch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/837794c8-1a0a-411f-a29c-852133d6fbc2%40googlegroups.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/837794c8-1a0a-411f-a29c-852133d6fbc2%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "elasticsearch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQDQQ%2BJRADr%2Bu%3DiqHjs9suKS6Yu8pSc1aKv0JsmavFypoQ%40mail.gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQDQQ%2BJRADr%2Bu%3DiqHjs9suKS6Yu8pSc1aKv0JsmavFypoQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/elasticsearch/rPS1duxMzyM/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/d22cd5e3-9f6f-4142-8021-71b033ac38de%40googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. 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