Don,
I usually leave the preamp on and not really needed as you said.  I will try 
backing down the RF gain 
a tad also.  Thanks for the info.
I found too, unless I have other noise issues to deal with, setting the NR at 
F1-1
reduces the hiss quite a bit, and no impact at all on the sig.  Just seems to 
give a quieter background, very nice.  

Bob
K6UJ


On Apr 28, 2012, at 4:01 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Bob,
> 
> The K3 has more reserve gain than most other receivers, and the lack of 
> signals cause the AGC to set the receiver top full gain.
> 
> With other receivers, I usually can run the preamp to advantage, but with my 
> K3 it is fine without the preamp on.
> 
> Do you have the preamp on?  If not, perhaps you want to turn on the 
> attenuator.  To tell if you have enough gain, disconnect the antenna and then 
> reconnect it.  If the receiver can hear the "antenna noise" you can reduce 
> the gain even further - perhaps by reducing the RF Gain.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 4/28/2012 6:42 PM, Bob K6UJ wrote:
>> I have a Kenwood TS-590S for a back up to my K3 and it has a noticeably 
>> quieter background than the K3.
>> I believe we should be able to address this with the NR in the K3,  I'm 
>> still learning how to adjust the NR.
>> 
>> 
>> Bob
>> K6UJ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:15 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
>> 
>>> I remember that my Kenwood 850 was quiet like that compared to my Yeasu 
>>> 990. Possibly how the agc is handled by Kenwood?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:07 AM, "Bill"<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have had my K3 for a couple of months - so I am still learning.
>>>> 
>>>> At this point, my primary concern is the amount of background hiss that
>>>> I have when no signals are being received. For example: When on 75 this
>>>> AM I am listening to a local net. When no one is talking the background
>>>> hiss rises.
>>>> 
>>>> When I switch to my TS-480, signals are just as strong and everything is
>>>> the same - EXCEPT there is nearly zero background hiss. I use the ATT on
>>>> both rigs. I much prefer the near FM silence of the 480.
>>>> 
>>>> I have already reduced it somewhat by use of the RX Equalizer. However,
>>>> it needs a lot more reduction to get to what I feel is an acceptable
>>>> level. Of note: I live in a rural area that has no background noise -
>>>> daytime level on 75 meters is zero.
>>>> 
>>>> Suggestions would be most appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Bill W2BLC
>>>> 
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