Guy,
Thanks for the info.
I think I have "afraid I wont be able to copy weak signal" fobia, hihi.
I need to experiment more with the RF gain and PRE and convince myself that 
that I am not sacrificing weak sig copy.
My problem lies in the space between the headphones, hihihihi

Bob
K6UJ



On Apr 28, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

> You only need set PRE/none/ATT and RF gain correctly.  Many people seem to 
> thing that RF gain at max all the time and PRE on all the time, for all bands 
> all the time, is the normal setting.  
> 
> You can make this exact same error on a Ten-Tec Orion.  PRE/ATT/RF gain need 
> to be set for ambient noise with NO signal to be at a very moderate level.  
> It is not at all uncommon on 160 and 80 for that to be ATT on and RF gain at 
> two PM.  My Yaesu MP dealt with that issue by deliberately making 160/80 
> insensitive so they would not receive reports of a noisy receiver.  
> 
> On your K3 you have the flexibility to use those on the low bands to supply 
> preamplier gain for low output directional RX antennas.  
> 
> My TX antenna on 160 is ATT on, RF gain at noon, and phased loops-on-ground 
> to NE on the second RX set to PRE on and RF gain at max.  Works balanced and 
> gang-busters on diversity, because the flexibility in the K3 allows me to 
> equalize the noise levels in the antennas.  There is no roaring noise coming 
> out of the RX and NR does not really help for really weak CW signals.  Narrow 
> selectivity does better.
> 
> 73, Guy.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Bob K6UJ <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have a Kenwood TS-590S for a back up to my K3 and it has a noticeably 
> quieter background than the K3.
> I believe we should be able to address this with the NR in the K3,  I'm still 
> learning how to adjust the NR.
> 
> 
> Bob
> K6UJ
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:15 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
> 
> > I remember that my Kenwood 850 was quiet like that compared to my Yeasu 
> > 990. Possibly how the agc is handled by Kenwood?
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:07 AM, "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> I have had my K3 for a couple of months - so I am still learning.
> >>
> >> At this point, my primary concern is the amount of background hiss that
> >> I have when no signals are being received. For example: When on 75 this
> >> AM I am listening to a local net. When no one is talking the background
> >> hiss rises.
> >>
> >> When I switch to my TS-480, signals are just as strong and everything is
> >> the same - EXCEPT there is nearly zero background hiss. I use the ATT on
> >> both rigs. I much prefer the near FM silence of the 480.
> >>
> >> I have already reduced it somewhat by use of the RX Equalizer. However,
> >> it needs a lot more reduction to get to what I feel is an acceptable
> >> level. Of note: I live in a rural area that has no background noise -
> >> daytime level on 75 meters is zero.
> >>
> >> Suggestions would be most appreciated.
> >>
> >> Bill W2BLC
> >>
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