How big is that unit, what brand and model? If something is the same size and does 50-70w, I am all for it.
My stated requirement is to mount it on the handlebars, and that space is just about 4x9x3, the size of the RAM mount box I specified. So what unit meets those previously stated requirements? On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Walter Underwood <[email protected]>wrote: > I am pretty sure I never suggested using a 5W rig. Mobile VHF rigs are > 50-75W. > > The KX3 is limited to 10W (8W at 12m and above), so it would not give any > more range than a 5W HT. > > wunder > K6WRU > > On May 4, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Russell Conner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > As I have stated many times. 5w is not cutting it. > > Sorry, it is not. People saying it is all I need is not changing the > facts. With a 5.1Db gain antenna, the local terrain is killing the signals > in larger than 12 man groups, single file through the hills. > > > > We need more in many cases. > > > > > > On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Walter Underwood <[email protected]> > wrote: > > You asked about a specific application, "co-ordinating rider > leader/wingman/tailgunners actions during rides". A VHF mobile or VHF/UHF > mobile is perfect for that. They are small, affordable, and the mobile > antennas are efficient. > > > > The issue is not Elecraft, it is using HF for this purpose. HF mobile > antennas are inefficient, often losing 10dB compared to a full-sized > antenna. That means you really need 100W. One reply suggested two 100W HF > rigs, the IC-706 and IC-7000. > > > > The Elecraft 100W amp would work for this, but it raises the cost to > around $2500 per vehicle, which is 10X the cost of a 2m mobile radio. One > of the reasons Elecraft gave for building the 100W amp was to make the KX3 > usable mobile. > > > > 6m or 10m do not have much advantage over 2m in this application, so > there is no reason to spend more money to run on those bands. If you did > want those bands, the IC-8900R covers 10m through 70cm with 50W for $400 > (35W on 70cm) (http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/fm_txvrs/0890.html). > > > > I'm a backpacker and I love my KX3. I go lots of places where cell > phones don't work. But I would not recommend it for a motorcycle. I'm > driving up to Oregon next week and I'll try to get on the noontime net with > 10W mobile, but I don't really expect that to work. > > > > wunder > > K6WRU > > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ > > > > On May 4, 2014, at 6:10 PM, rgconner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hmm. What I think the biggest issue is that I am both a motorcycle > > > enthusiast and a budding HAM enthusiast... although the shine is > coming off > > > quickly. > > > > > > "Motor scooters" come in 600+ cc now, they are as big and fast as half > the > > > motorcycles out there. BMW's C600 will cruise all day long, and you > can get > > > up and 1000 miles again the next day if you want. > > > > > > This highlights the difficulty: lack of mine and others knowledge of > both > > > spheres in equal depth. I know motorcycles. I don't know HAM as well. > You > > > all know the HAM as well, but there seems to be not an overlap with > > > motorcycles so much. > > > > > > And, considering the spec this was designed for: "home, backpacking, > and > > > travel." it sounds like another product: cell phones. > > > > > > And we motorcyclists mount our cellphones to the handlebars all the > time, > > > even small tablets. > > > > > > So I am surprised those products fair better than the KX3 in the > > > overlapping "home, backpacking, and travel." environment. > > > > > > I have broken 3 phones packpacking, so I guess the KX3 is out > altogether if > > > it is not as rugged as as say, a Galaxy S phone. > > > > > > My 2c worth. > > > > > > On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Jim Brown-10 [via Elecraft] < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> On 5/4/2014 5:17 PM, Russell Conner wrote: > > >>> well, the naysayers have convinced me, the Elecraft is not the radio > for > > >> me > > >>> for this application, and this is the application I need to solve > first. > > >> A > > >>> home station is a year or two away, if ever. > > >> > > >> Hi Russell, > > >> > > >> Congratulations on getting your license. The experience and > backgrounds > > >> of those who have offered advice is pretty widely varied -- everything > > >> from true expert to opinions only to hearsay. Most of us own Elecraft > > >> rigs, and most have owned lots of other rigs too, over the years. I've > > >> had nearly 20 in the 60 years I've been a ham. Many of us own and use > 2M > > >> and 440 MHz rigs -- I certainly do -- and I mostly use them on the > road. > > >> > > >> I agree with the advice that Elecraft does not make a product to do > what > > >> you want on your motorcycle -- for the short distances involved, I'd > be > > >> looking at either a 2M rig if all the guys in your group are hams, or > an > > >> FRS radio if they are not, looking for something you can fit with a > > >> suitable headset. > > >> > > >> As others have noted, the KX3 is a great rig for home, backpacking, > and > > >> travel. That's what it's designed for. When you are ready for a rig > like > > >> that, it's head and shoulders above the rest. 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