On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 16:45 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV hosed down the Internet with: > On 2015-02-18 1:08 PM, David Cole wrote: > > Clearly you are not reading, or comprehending, what is being said > > here... > > I am reading *and* comprehending what has been said here. I've even > been guilty of not being split when I should be but *never* more than > one or two transmissions and most often when the DX is not announcing > that he's listening split. I make it a habit to check the Delta-F > LED and/or the [SPLIT] icon before calling any station.
It's not about you Joe! I am just happy as can be that you never fail to look at the DELTA-F LED. The suggestions being presented here, are for others, myself included. I am happy you are always correct, and check the LED every-time, I don't. Sometimes, I, and it would appear others, actually-- (GASP), forget to check the LED... As Wayne said, the UI should assist users... Also having the LED flash be an option, not the default should have ended this entire discussion... -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info > > >> The problem is that the operator *is not paying attention*. The > >> correct approach would be: every time the operator activates > >> transmit, the rig display should show a message that says "you are > >> in transceive (simplex) - are you sure you should not engage split? > >> Press XMIT to begin transmitting" > > === > > Again, using the Extreme card to make a point that just does not cut > > the mustard on it's own... > > The "need another indicator" chant is extreme in itself. If three on > the K3 and two on the P3 are not enough how many does it take? How > distraction needs to be added until a distracted operator becomes > focused? > > It is not logical to believe that one can focus a distracted operator > by pouring on additional distractions but if you want it simply do > an option that will cause the VFO A or VFO B display (whichever is > selected for transmit) to blink full time and to prevent anyone from > missing that distraction inhibit transmit if the second line of the > display is not showing VFO B. > > No matter how many guardrails you install, there will always be some > fool who drives into that curve 10 MPH faster than the guardrails can > handle. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > On 2015-02-18 1:08 PM, David Cole wrote: > > On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 10:55 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV spewed: > > > > Implicit in your statement is that the transceiver, automobile, roadway > > or whatever should make it impossible for the operator to have an > > accident. That's not possible - there are those who can break an anvil. > > === > > > > Untrue Joe... No where do I imply that it should be "impossible" for an > > accident to happen. In fact I infer just the opposite, that there > > should be safeguards. I infer it by use of sarcasm. > > > > You are again taking everything to extremes, then arguing that issue as > > if the originator of the statement also took things to extremes. Please > > read what was typed and respond to what was typed, not your translation > > of what was typed. > > > > > > On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 10:55 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV sprayed the Internet > > with: > > > > The current design that *THREE* separate indications of split operation. > > Any *one* of those should be sufficient. *NONE* of the proposals do > > anything to address the real question which should be how to notify the > > operator that he *should be in split*. > > === > > > > Clearly you are not reading, or comprehending, what is being said > > here... Many Ops here have said, (repeatedly), that the radio is > > dropping out of Split for some reason, and they are not noticing it. > > Hence your premise that the Ops need to be told they "*should be in > > split*" is deeply flawed. > > > > Clearly there is an issue Joe... There are just too many people > > requesting a change. > > > > > > On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 10:55 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV heaved up the > > following: > > > > The problem is that the operator *is not paying attention*. The correct > > approach would be: every time the operator activates transmit, the rig > > display should show a message that says "you are in transceive (simplex) > > - are you sure you should not engage split? Press XMIT to begin > > transmitting" > > === > > Again, using the Extreme card to make a point that just does not cut the > > mustard on it's own... > > > > For those of us that make mistakes Joe, (unlike yourself evidently), > > there is an issue here... > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
