Please everyone, we don’t need the “appliance operators vs builders” argument 
here. Those are flavors of amateur radio, not levels of goodness.

I was an appliance operator in 1970, with a BC-348 receiver and an ARC-5 
transmitter. My Elmer got those working for me.

See you on the æther,

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Much of the market has changed over the years with more and more coming into 
> amateur radio who are moreor less operators and not builders (as I view it 
> they are the ones missing out on 90% of the fun of amateur radio).But as I 
> would tend to believe Elecraft wants to stay in business they need to evolve 
> with the changing market.
> I have built a few radios that were surface mount and they can be a little 
> more of a challenge than through hole,but not nearly as hard as I initially 
> thought they would be, just a but different in the thought process and work.I 
> think Elecraft would be hard pressed to sell a lot of K3's that were 100% in 
> Kit form (as in solder the boards).
> 
> The K2 was a great radio and I really enjoyed building it (and in a moment of 
> foolishness I sold it).
> Of the few radios I regret selling the ones I actually built are the ones I 
> regret the most.
> 
>      From: Jim Rogers <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Support
> 
> And I agree with you and Kevin Ron.  Sometimes with growth cracks occur 
> and you might just fall through one now and then. But you remain 
> faithful to the cause. There is one Elecraft radio that will never leave 
> my shack and that one is my faithful K2/10 with that wonderful receiver. 
> It has the battery supply and that great antenna tuner and every option 
> except the 100W amp.
> 
> Jim, W4ATK
> 
> K2, K-Line
> 
> 
> On 1/7/2017 9:32 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>> Yes, it is clear Elecraft's primary customer base has shifted from builders
>> to operators. By "operators" I mean Hams who want a rig they plug in, turn
>> on, and use on the air or perhaps tinker with interfacing it with their
>> computer, etc.
>>   
>> I agree with Kevin.
>> 
>> 73, Ron AC7AC
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>> [email protected]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 2:56 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Support
>> 
>> Sigh
>> 
>>       Kevin.  KD5ONS
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/7/2017 2:36 PM, Jim Rogers wrote:
>>> Does anyone remember the good old days, back when the K2 was king, you
>>> would call support and would be routed to an engineer or perhaps in
>>> the case of the DSP2,  Lyle himself? I remember developing a real
>>> friendship with a guy out west, who worked from his home. Eventually
>>> we shared phone numbers. Or you would turn to the back of the K2
>>> manual and there find the complete schematics and chapter 9, "Circuit
>>> Details"?  Yeah, I know, those were the days of thru-hole kits, solder
>>> smoke, and, "gee I wish I had not done that", when you lifted a trace
>>> and had to break out the blue wire to make things right again. Things
>>> were better then....those really were the good old days...things were
>>> more personal then.....
>>> 
>>> Jim, W4ATK
>>> 
>>> Licensed: General Class Sept 1953
>>> 
>>> K2, K-Line
>>> 
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