Correct.

Fan dipoles work because the resonant 1/4-wave elements are lower impedance 
than the non-resonant elements, so they get the majority of the power. A neat 
trick, really.

The LNR End-Fedz antennas use traps. They appear to work just fine.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Feb 11, 2017, at 12:50 PM, K9MA <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 2/11/2017 13:03, Brian Pietrzyk wrote:
>> Now comes the fantasy thinking... What about making it an end fed multi band 
>> by either putting traps in the 80m end fed or better still adding on a 
>> couple of fan EFHW wires for 40 and 20? Anyone tried this? How would the 
>> efficiencies compare to their centre fed trap or fan dipole counterparts 
>> respectively? 
> 
> That won't work, because the shorter wires will present a much lower 
> impedance, and essentially short out the half wave wire.  The whole idea of 
> the EFHW is that the high feedpoint impedance reduces ground system current 
> to practically zero.
> 
> A trap might work, but might not be compatible with keeping the antenna very 
> light.  A QRP trap could be pretty small, I suppose, but it still might be 
> hard to support the wire with the extra weight on it using a lightweight pole.
> 
> However, an EFHW will work on harmonics, though the pattern changes.  A 40 
> meter half wave works quite well on 20, but I'm not sure an 80 meter half 
> wave would be all that great on 20, especially with a single support.  The 
> free space patterns of long wire antennas are shown in the ARRL Antenna Book. 
>  As frequency goes up, more lobes appear in the pattern, and the main ones 
> get closer to the axis of the wire.  For example, a full wave antenna has a 
> cloverleaf pattern, the lobes about 55 degrees from the wire axis, with nulls 
> broadside.  For a 2 wavelength wire, there are 8 lobes, the main ones 35 
> degrees from the wire axis.  These patterns will, of course, be modified by 
> the effects of ground and the fact that the wire probably won't be straight, 
> but the free space patterns give some idea of how the antenna will radiate.  
> Modeling these antennas is very easy, and gives much more accurate results.
> 
> Note that the pattern of an EFHW (full wave, etc.) is NOT the same as that of 
> a center fed dipole operated at even harmonics.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Scott  K9MA
> 
> 
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