To make these kinds of measurements with amateur equipment and accuracy, I suggest acquiring some directional couplers and/or high power attenuators.  A spare K3 or a decent SDR receiver then makes an excellent "power meter" with significant dynamic range.  Gain measurements are really ratio measurements and seldom, if ever, require NIST traceability.  The ancillary hardware can be characterized by substitution.

One further point: Although it's possible that two 10% accuracy power meters will have 20% uncertainty, it's highly improbable. In industry, all uncertainties: mismatch errors due to reflection coefficients of sources and power sensors, linearity errors, noise, temperature effects, etc are combined into one uncertainty by RSSing the individual errors.  You never add all the worse cases to get the answer.

Wes  N7WS

On 6/19/2018 3:42 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
John,

You are exactly right for bring that factor to attention. Typically wattmeters use diodes in their detectors, and the response will vary by frequency and by the power level.

I would trust only something that has been calibrated to NIST traceable standards.  The Telepost LP-100 is one example (and those are used on many Elecraft test benches).

While 10% is an OK deviation for amateur purposes, two wattmeters each with 10% accuracy can lead to a 20% error in the final measurements.

It is too easy to jump to conclusions by not considering the potential errors in measurement accuracy.  If you want 5% accuracy in your conclusions, your measurement tools should be accurate to 0.5% - a far stretch for wattmeters as we know them.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/19/2018 6:25 PM, John Oppenheimer wrote:
Hi Scott,

I wonder how the linearity of the two power meters was evaluated?

Some years ago I checked the K3 and KX3 power meter against two other
meters. They were just within 10%
http://www.kn5l.net/Elecraft/Power.html
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