I work in the 2 to 3 db above the noise floor CW, and 6 to 10 db above the noise floor on SSB now, (that is why I presently own a K3s and a P3VGA) so I guess I will have to wait for the real answer. I really cannot believe that Elecraft did not run their own test. If and when I spend my cash I am not looking for the pretty blinkie colored lights and a fancy screen, I want performance. My really big issue is: receiver noise floor, sensitivity and DSP that does not distort or degrade the incoming signal. But thank all of you for your input and I truly appreciate all the comments.
Bruce WW8II On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 10:43 AM Louandzip via Elecraft < [email protected]> wrote: > That's not a simple or easy question to answer, especially since there's > been no independent test of a K4, and there are many different criteria > that go into it. That said, I'll go out on a limb and say that in most > all practical situations on the air, it won't be. I say that because I've > listened to and half-assedly compared a number of very good radios and some > less good radios on the air. They might sound different, and take some > tweaking of the controls to make them sound a similar as possible, but in > the end I couldn't copy sigs better on one than the other. The K3 is really > good in the tests, and I'm confident the K4 will surpass it, but that's at > level that will only matter in what I consider to be exceptional > circumstances. > > I'll add that I'm not the radio connoisseur that some are, and what I feel > is largely the same, others may find hugely different. That doesn't stop me > from wanting the best, even if I believe it won't make a practical > difference in my operating. > > > > > On Tuesday, January 19, 2021, 12:47:17 AM MST, BRUCE WW8II < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I also would appreciate a real answer to the question. The question is > will the K4 or K4D be as good or better on receive than my K3s with the > 2.1kHz and the 200Hz filters. > > Bruce WW8II > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 12:56 AM RVZ via Elecraft < > [email protected]> > wrote: > > > I believe there are no crystal Roofing Filters in the standard K4 model. > > Yet the manual talks about "one set of receive filters". Please advise > the > > type and bandwidth of these filters? (DSP?) > > > > From the K4 Manual: There are three models: the basic K4, with one set > of > > receive filters and one analog-to-digital converter (ADC); the K4D, with > a > > second set of receive filters and a second ADC; and the K4HD, which adds > a > > superheterodyne front end that can be enabled as needed to provide even > > greater dynamic range. The superhet module uses high-performance, > > narrow-band crystal filters such as those used in the Elecraft K3S. > Thanks > > & 73, Dick- K9OM > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [email protected] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]

