Gary,

I did not suggest that the feature should not be added to the K3 nor did I
suggest that improvements not be made to the K3. Why do you claim that I
did?

My point is that in nearly 40 years of SSB contesting, it has become
apparent to me that those who use a monitor function to keep track of what
they're doing vocally on their air - whether by automated sending or with
their own voice A: sound better, and B: maintain coherence better.

73,

Bob W5OV





-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Gregory [mailto:garyvk...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:03 AM
To: Bob Naumann
Cc: Geoffrey Downs; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KDVR

It never ceases to amaze me when a suggestion comes up to "add" a
feature that has some practical use, we get a variety of opinions to
the contrary and yet I think we all forget that nearly all added
features come with the choice of on/off so that those of us wanting a
feature added can use it and those that don't want it can turn it off
and maintain the status quo.

Hi,

I for one have not been vocal against any improvement with the K3 when
the suggested feature is of no use to me and so I would ask that we
all support the ongoing feature enhancement of the K3 by supporting
the adding of new features such as Monitor On/Mute for the DVR during
playback. I have never caught myself yelling into a microphone because
I couldn't hear myself speak and I have used the DVR on playback
during a contest with the Monitor turned off. I would prefer to keep
it on and muted on TX as MY preferred way of operating. I don't use
external "boxes" either such as microHAM or any other type of
interface and not all operators wish to use N1MM Logger or even HRD
for that matter. I don't even want a PC connected to the K3 on most
occasions and therefore I would not use a PC based DVR.

Many K3 owners are casual operators most of the time so many of the
"contest" features are of little use. This does not mean we don't want
the features, just a choice as to when we use them and surely this is
not too much to ask.

I respect all opinions on the refelctor as we all have different ideas
about operating and the K3 is by far the most versatile radio I have
owned and I have seen it grow in versatility since I aquired mine over
two years ago.

If your listening Wayne, this is a good feature for many of us and we
would welcome it becoming a reality as we are customers too.

sincerely,
Gary VK4FD

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Bob Naumann <w...@w5ov.com> wrote:
> While I can understand why one might think that it would be a benefit to
> turn off the monitor and just have silence in your ears briefly, I think
> that once one spends too many weekends with headphones on for greater than
> half of the 48 hours of a contest over decades, you will begin to
understand
> that having the SSB monitor on - all the time - is an important thing. If
> your ears need a break, pull the headphones off during a DVR transmission
> and really give your ears and head a break.
>
> It is important because it allows you to hear what you are saying clearly
to
> maintain articulation and also enables you to maintain a level output of
> your voice - mainly so you don't start yelling into the mic and then
suffer
> distortion and the resultant loss of your voice later on - yes, even when
> using the DVR.
>
> If you must, turn it down to a lower level, but don't turn it off -
please!
>
> 73,
>
> Bob W5OV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Gregory
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 8:28 PM
> To: Geoffrey Downs
> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KDVR
>
> Geoff,
>
> I didn't know this was "on the list" but I sure reckon you got a great
> idea if it is not already on the list.
>
> I use MON at level 6 when using the DVR and I have been trying to get
> used to hearing my own voice in the headphones. I can do it this way
> but it sure would be a lot better if it was muted during TX.
>
> I will be watching closely for any response from Elecraft.
>
> 73's
> Gary
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Geoffrey Downs
> <geoff...@downs.globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> While on the subject of the KDVR3, I wonder if the next beta firmware
>> release will include a feature that automatically turns MON on at a
>> predetermined level when a recording is being transmitted, and off again
>> when transmission is finished? It has reputedly been "on the list" for a
>> year or so.
>>
>> 73 to all
>>
>> Geoff
>> G3UCK
>>
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