On Sep 3, 2005, at 22:15, Andrew Myers wrote:

I would like to have a statement
about strategic immunity that doesn't rely on people judging the difficulty of
creating a top cycle.

The best I can offer when it comes to freeing people of judging and deciding strategies is the following method.

The method consists of two rounds. If the first round produces a Condorcet winner, the second round is not needed. Otherwise the second round will be held and also the tie breaking method is used if there is a top cycle. (Clearly non-winning candidates could be excluded from the second round but I won't discuss those rules further here.)

In this method those (sincere) voters that do not want to worry about strategies can forget them in the first round. If someone else created an artificial cycle or if there was a sincere cycle, those sincere voters may come back and consider strategies in the second round. Clear use of strategies in the first round could lead to revenge at the second round. This fact may to some extent reduce the interest to use strategies in the first round.

Having two rounds may of course be expensive and troublesome but at least this method seems to get quite well rid of the small strategic problems of the Condorcet methods - well, for the first round at least. Maybe the second round is also in some respects fair since the strategic options can be seen when the "strategists" have exact information on how people voted. This availability of information is also negative in the sense that it is easier to develop complex strategies when detailed information is available.

BR, Juho


P.S. You mentioned also the possible need to effectively co-ordinated the insincere votes. I have been interested in learning what such strategies there are that could take place in real life elections based either on independent individual decisions (=no effective co-ordination) or based on some guidance that has been published e.g. by one party, and if these strategies will elect some candidate that otherwise would not be even close to victory. Most strategies are quite theoretical from this point of view, but I haven't been able to eliminate all. Current voting methods have many strategic problems, so in theory it is enough for Condorcet not to introduce any vulnerabilities that are worse than the existing ones. One way of freeing people from considering strategies is of course also taking Condorcet methods into use and finding out that they work fine.

P.P.S. Sorry about not providing any clear "immunity statements" as requested, but maybe these thoughts are at least of some interest :-)

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