On Sep 5, 2005, at 23:13, James Green-Armytage wrote:

Juho Laatu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
The method consists of two rounds. If the first round produces a
Condorcet winner, the second round is not needed. Otherwise the second
round will be held and also the tie breaking method is used if there is a top cycle. (Clearly non-winning candidates could be excluded from the
second round but I won't discuss those rules further here.)

I brought this up in late May of 2004. As I recall, the idea didn't meet
with much support. I agree that runoffs are expensive and ideally
shouldn't be necessary, but there may be situations where the benefits
outweigh the costs. Once I designed cardinal pairwise, which seems to have
fairly strong anti-strategic properties with a single round, I stopped
talking about the two round system. Still, perhaps the idea should be kept
afloat to some degree, e.g. given a name and an electowiki page. I also
proposed a procedure in December 2003 which is similar but with no fixed limit on the number of rounds... I consider this one to be excellent in a
small group scenario, but impractical when the number of voters is very
large.

my best,
James

references:
http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/ 2003-December/011393.html http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/ 2004-May/date.html
http://fc.antioch.edu/~james_green-armytage/vm/antistratsum.htm


Yes, I think the idea of two round of multiple round Condorcet should be kept floating. The burden of additional rounds may not be a problem in some settings. (If multiple rounds are not wanted, then just skip this method proposal.) Another reason for keeping multiple round Condorcet methods alive is educational. I think they nicely point out some essential characteristics (strategy free vs. "strategical" parts) of Condorcet methods. Yet another way of using multiple Condorcet rounds is to use them as opinion polls. If some (not necessarily even a small) group has access to quick computerised voting, it is no problem to check every few minutes how people feel about certain questions/options (it is also possible to have even a continuous real-time opinion poll that displays the changes whenever someone updates his/her previous ratings (some privacy protection can be added if needed)). And when the timing seems to be right (=Condorcet winner visible), the chairman can propose to make a decision.

BR, Juho

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