On Jan 30, 2009, at 9:56 PM, Dave Ketchum wrote:

The war here is over IRV/STV, which Kathy attacks, Terry defends, and I agree that kathy should win.

On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:57:10 -0700 Kathy Dopp wrote:
From: "Terry Bouricius" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [EM] STV and weighted positional methods
What is even more puzzling is Ms. Dopp's continued defense of plurality
voting.
I chased this one a bit:
    Did not see Kathy doing such.
Did not see her attacking Condorcet as if Plurality was better than that (Condorcet interests me).

Stumbled on something Terry wrote Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:37:01 -0500:
    It seems suspect for a method to fail to elect a candidate
    when a majority prefers that candidate to all other candidates.

Terry was referring to a single majority. In the IRV example below there is no set of 7 voters who prefer A to all other candidates. Only three voters, 1/4 of the total, prefer A to all other voters. The example at hand was a Borda count in which there was such a majority that fails to prevail:

51: A > C > B > D
5: C > B > D > A
23: B > C > D > A
21: D > C > B > A



Let's see:
    3 A>B>C
    4 B>A>C
    5 C>A>B

A liked better than B?  YES 8>4
A liked better than C?  YES 7>5
A liked better than all other candidates?  YES - B&C is all other.


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