The NDAs for the foundaries will stop you cold as soon as you go below
about 180nm.

An option would be to use laser direct writing and expose and dope the
wafers yourself. You could theoretically do this in a clean room you setup
in a garage, but you'd still probably need 40k of equipment and material,
at the very low end. Disposal of toxic chemicals in an appropriate way is
another hurdle. All of this, and you might be able to get an ancient
process out the door. But it would be fun...



On May 15, 2017 6:31 AM, "Justin Spencer" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Mr. Carvalho,
>
> Good day. I would also like to help with this endeavor in any way possible.
> Please contact me if you're interested in collaborating.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Regards,
> Justin
>
> On Friday, 24 March 2017 00:33:22 UTC+8, Maurício Carvalho wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I would like to develop a full open source RISCV-based System-On-Chip
>> making use of free VLSI tools and PDKs (possibly making everything freely
>> available). I have been playing with electric vlsi for some years but I
>> never did anything serious with it besides playing with small designs and
>> doing simple tests. On industry standard tools, however, I have been doing
>> a couple of serious professional works and I have a reasonable
>> understanding of the digital and analog flow.
>>
>> I have a few questions regarding electric and my goal:
>>
>> 1) I'd like to know if electric could work well with distributed
>> computing for physical synthesis and other computing intense work. For
>> example, If I have a powerful workstation including several CPUs and such,
>> would it correctly make use of the system's resources?
>>
>> 2) I have found some open source PDKs, but I could never find an answer
>> whether they can produce a reliable layout and the relative foundry where
>> it can be actually manufactured. I presume someone has already manufactured
>> a design, possibly with MOSIS PDKs, using Electric? Any other suggestions
>> are welcome. I have found a .18 library, but I would like to use sub-micron
>> technologies 90nm, 65nm and 45nm. I guess listing as many open source PDKs
>> related to a specific Foundry as I can would also help.
>>
>> 3) What about automated DFT in electric? Sure we can manually add some
>> blocks at the RTL, but scan chains can be quite difficult to implement
>> without useful information from the synthesized circuit. What about ATPGs?
>> Are there any possibility to integrate these tools on electric? Or, are
>> there any open source Test Tools? I've asked for the Lifting fault
>> simulation tool but never got an answer back from the developers.
>>
>> 4) Is there an SDC equivalent for Electric during logic and physical
>> synthesis?
>>
>> 5) Does anyone know where I can find an open source memory cell? Or a
>> very cheap one which would include models for logic and electrical
>> simulations?
>>
>> I'm sure there are many other questions I'd like to add to this post, but
>> it is best to keep it short for now.
>>
>> Hope someone can help!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mauricio De Carvalho
>>
>>
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