Cool! it will provide first insights of/for the community I hope. However, if we really want to understand how the community should evolve, I think that another, more detailed survey on this specific matter will be needed at some point.
On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 3:52:15 PM UTC+1, Brian Hicks wrote: > > This will be part of the State of Elm survey. It goes live this week, and > I'll post a new thread here when it does. It doesn't go into quite as much > detail as your post because we're already pushing the length limit. That > said, this is what I've got for this: > > *Which of the following do you read / contribute to?* > > - Elm Slack > - elm-discuss mailing list > - elm-dev mailing list > - Twitter discussions > - Facebook groups > - Elm subreddit > - Elm weekly newsletter > - Elm town podcast > > > On Jan 18, 2017, 8:19 AM -0600, Matthieu Pizenberg <[email protected] > <javascript:>>, wrote: > > Hi again, since this is not the first time that this matter is discussed, > and since this time Evan launched it, it means that it is an important > matter for the community and it's going to evolve anytime soon ^^. So, > instead of discussing it here with passion and obvious bias since we are on > the mailing list, what would you think of asking the questions to all the > community in a more objective way? > > What I think of is for example a google form like the one below, that > would be accessible from all the community entry points (slack, reddit, > mailing list, ...). Please tell if you like the idea, or not. (sorry for > the long post XD) > > > # Community Checkpoint Form > > --------------- PROFILE > > What is your experience with elm ? > - New here > - Not so much experience (1-2 completed projects) > - Start feeling confident (understand most of it, multiple successful > projects) > - Total expert (yeah I even master effect managers, native code, etc.) > > Are you familiar with functional programming? > - What is that? > - I know the basics > - Yes I use it regurlarly > - Peace of cake, I'm currently doing a PhD on homotopy type theory for > functional programming > > --------------- COMMUNITY > > Some description here to introduce the dilemna between Reddit, Google > Groups (alias mailing list), and something else dedicated (let's say a > Discourse). > > Did you know about: > o The elm Reddit? > o The elm Slack? > o The elm discussion group (mailing list)? > > Are you currently a Reddit user? > - No > - Yes, sometimes > - Yes, everytime > > Are you currently a Google Groups user? > - No > - Yes, sometimes > - Yes, everytime > > Are you currently using a Discourse forum? > - No > - Yes, sometimes > - Yes, everytime > > Rank your preferences between those: > 1. elm Reddit > 1. elm discussion group (mailing list) > 1. elm Discourse > > (If you ranked first Reddit) would you volunteer to help with the > moderation? > - yes/no > (If you ranked first the mailing list) would you volunteer to help with > the moderation? > - yes/no > (If you ranked first Discourse) would you volunteer to help with the > creation, funding of the server, or moderation of this forum? > - yes/no > > (If you answered yes to one of the previous volunteering questions) please > give us details of what you would like to do and a way to contact you in > case this might go further: > ------------ > | | > ------------ > > Anything you would like to add? > ------------ > | | > ------------ > > On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 2:51:05 AM UTC+1, Evan wrote: >> >> I recently talked with folks who moderate the various Elm discussion >> forums about the challenges that come up and how we can do better. >> >> The short version is: *we should start migrating more discussion >> to /r/elm <https://www.reddit.com/r/elm/>.* >> >> Now the long version! >> >> >> How Things Are Now >> >> Long-form discussion is split between elm-discuss and /r/elm >> <https://www.reddit.com/r/elm/>. There are a lot of regulars that spend >> more time on elm-discuss, but I think it's fair to say that /r/elm is much >> more easily accessible and "public facing" for newcomers. This creates some >> problems. >> >> Problems with elm-discuss: >> >> - Threads are linear, so it's hard for people to branch off into >> sub-discussions. >> - There's no voting mechanism in elm-discuss, so topics are sorted by >> "are people posting?" not by "do people care?" >> - Moderation to avoid spam is more difficult. All new users are >> moderated by default to avoid those awful spam robots that Google Groups >> does not catch. >> - It goes to people's already full inboxes. If you change this, you >> use the online interface, which is not amazing. >> >> Problems from having two long-form forums: >> >> - Lots of valuable expertise *only* lives on elm-discuss. When new >> folks come to /r/elm, there are not as many folks with as much production >> experience. >> - Blog posts (frequently shared on /r/elm) miss out on a lot of >> valuable feedback. >> >> >> How Things Could Be >> >> Right now I'm just suggesting that folks who are regulars here get on >> /r/elm and see if you like it. I'd like to start by shifting the center of >> gravity for community discussion. >> >> Longer term though, things could look more like how Rust does it. It >> seems like /r/rust <https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/> is the center of >> gravity for community discussion. See their sidebar! They moderate content >> well and have some laughs >> <https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/5l08o5/rust_is_literally_haskell/>. >> (I personally think it's very important for moderators to be active in >> guiding people towards *friendly* discussion! That's super hard on >> elm-discuss.) >> >> They also have an interesting approach to answering beginner questions >> <https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/5ljizz/is_there_a_rust_equivalent_to_rlearnpython/> >> that >> I think it'd be good to try out! >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Elm Discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/elm-discuss/rg3fzdyG_VU/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected] <javascript:>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Elm Discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
