Jean Louis <[email protected]> writes: > On 2026-07-31 07:31, Thanos Apollo wrote: >> Jean Louis <[email protected]> writes: >> >>> unless it is free as in software freedom. >> >> LLM models are not software. They are data assets. Not source code >> you >> can study and change. > > That is why there is "as" in my above sentence "unless it is free as in > software freedom". The word "as" points to analogous principles. As > purely LLM, there is nothing that LLM can do without software. > > And back to copyright issues: > > - there are LLMs trained purely on libre datasets;
Are there humans purely trained on libre datasets? I've learned english mostly from proprietary movies and books. Is this email and any of my organic 100% Human Stupidity produced code tainted? > - you can modify and study datasets; > - you can modify and study inference software; Sure, if you have colossus-1 level hardware. Please feel free to make your own models. > And with the time and development it becomes possible to modify and > study the weights. > > And in my context, I keep saying, people should be running fully free > models, as free as in software freedom. > > Majority of models you named as data assets are not free. Though some > are. > > Overview of EU legislation on FOSS | Interoperable Europe Portal > https://interoperable-europe.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/overview-eu-legislation-foss Thanks for sharing EU legislation:) We practically allow any data to be used for training and have incorporated AI even into our middle school curriculum here. > Sorry, that is wrong comparison. No it is not. > I think you missed the point. Sure. [...] > Anthropic also stole a lot of code from free software If you think anthropic/openai/whatever stole any code, please sue them. > So the choice isn't between "use Claude Code" and "write commit messages > by hand." The choice is between using a proprietary service that trains > on your data—which means feeding potentially GNU GPL-licensed code into > a company's training pipeline, diluting the very copyleft protections > Emacs depends on—and using a free software agent that runs on your own > machine with a local model that respects your freedom and keeps your > code out of Anthropic's hands. Please, don't use LLMs to reply to me. Let's keep it Human Stupidity only. -- Thanos Apollo ☧ https://thanosapollo.org
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