Great explanation, Chris, thank you. It needs outgoing authentication, which I assume is STMP and not POP.
So, finally I understand - that's what Baton mail is all about?! Where do I find out more about Baton mail? Alicia On 5/23/2002 19:54, Chris wrote: >>If a server requires STMP authentication, can't I do that by manually >>Getting mail and then quickly manually Sending? > >No, what you are thinking of is refered to as POP Authentication (which >just to really confuse you is not the same thing as logging into your POP >account to get your mail). > >SMTP Auth is a style where authentication info is sent to the mail server >when you connect to send mail, but before you actually start sending it. >Emailer does not support SMTP Authentication... but it can do POP Auth >(which, like you think above, is basically just check your mail right >before sending mail). However, not all mail servers support POP Auth (nor >do all support SMTP Auth, and some support both). > >>My dial-up ISP just gave me some new phone numbers to try out because of >>a problem with the existing ones. I connect fine with the new numbers, >>but cannot send, getting the error: >>> ** 550 5.7.1 <recipient's e-mail address>... Relaying denied >>> ** SMTP server error "503 5.0.0 Need RCPT (recipient)" > >Yup, that is an authentication problem. The easiest is to try POP Auth >and see if you can then send. If not, you need to look into other options >(different mail server, different email software, or Baton Mail among >choices). > >>It's a little complicated. The new provider [of our new phone numbers] >>has not given us specific IP numbers for our dial-up modems. Without the >>IP numbers, the WGN server does not know who you are. That's why I >>suggested to have the outgoing mail authentication. > >That actually makes perfect sense. The ISP would LIKE to make your life >easy and simply set their mail server to accept mail from anyone >connected at a certain range of IP addresses. But if the new dialup >provider won't (or can't) give them a list of possible IPs, then the ISP >can't set the server to look for them. So to keep spammers at bay, they >are forced to resort to other authentication methods. > >>More in depth, my provider was recently taken over by a new company. When >>that happened, I was getting the same error, and it was eventually fixed >>by their giving me new name server addresses to enter in the TCP/IP >>panel. Otherwise, I didn't have to change any settings. For reasons I >>don't understand, it (apparently) was only Macs who needed these new >>addresses, and who were experiencing these errors. Apparently PCs got the >>info automatically, or something like that. > >The take over probably included new mail servers. Again, the ISP was >being nice, and simply altered the DNS records to point to the new mail >servers, making your transition transparent. This would be 100% >transparent to windows users, because windows gets the DNS server info >along with the DHCP lease (ie: when they connect to the dialup, a DHCP >server tells the windows machine what IP address to use, what DNS servers >to use, and what routers to look to). The Mac up thru OS 9.x will get >everything EXCEPT the DNS servers with a DHCP lease. As as result, you >needed to manually update the DNS servers. (OS X will also grab the DNS >info with the DHCP lease... as well as I might be off on if OS 9 grabs >the DNS info... I don't recall now that I am thinking about it) > >>The old versions I have of Eudora and Netscape also give me the same >>error and I was hoping to easily test whether STMP authentication was the >>problem > >Older versions of those programs also don't support SMTP Authentication, >so they wouldn't do you any good. > > >Your best bet is to try the POP Auth, failing that, you need to look into >other options. > >-chris ><http://www.mythtech.net> > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of "unsubscribe" to ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alicia Gordon Gordon Word Artists French and Spanish Translation ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of "unsubscribe" to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
