I'm not 100% sure of the exact sequence that SpamFire uses. however, I have been keeping an eye on it, and it does download & archive all the mail first. Then it processes it all, then it deletes the spam right off the server.
If you discover it has trashed a good email, you can "rescue" it from the SpamFire cache (using the spamFire application). That's when it uploads back to the POP mailbox. You can even "rescue" it to a different account! That's probably a lot like "Redirect". Here's the headers of some spam I "rescued to..." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because I know this list is archived, I added "!" in the email addresses. Ignore that. >Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Received: from adsl-66-159-201-77.dslextreme.com [66.159.201.77] by >192.168.2.110; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:00:07 -0700 >X-Originally-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-Filtered-By: Spamfire 2099168 >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: Truck Survey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: ADV-Dodge Ram 2500 Entry #803279 >Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:03:30 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; >class-id=1:0qbMkYE94Q4bkUoYQ:943028 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit SpamFire keeps all the messages it downloads in it's own cache system until you delete them all (one button) or you can set it to auto-delete its cached messages after a certain time. The SpamFire instructions recommend using a fast & loose approach that will for sure result in some false positives (even low scores are considered spam), but you're supposed to watch & rescue the good emails for a while. It's also a really good idea to export your emailer addressbook & import it into SpamFire as a "WhiteList". Any emails from anyone on your white list will not be trashed. There are quite a number of configurable premade filters too. I'm using SpamFire to filter my fiancees email and MAN she gets a lot of spam. About 80-150 a day. I don't know why, but it sure adds up. She only gets maybe 5 good emails a week to this account, so all that spam just sucks the fun right out of email. I'm just glad I can help; she's on Mac OS 8.6, and part of our deal is that she bought her own iMac, and I leave it alone. When we were first dating I loaned her a Performa, but she got annoyed when I was always taking it apart & borrowing pieces for the day. So even without touching her iMac, SpamSieve can help remove most of the pain that spam causes her, and she can check her email without fear of a massive clerical chore of sorting & deleting spam. There is of course a trust issue, but as a MacMedic & server admin, I am used to being in that position & don't violate the trust. Best, Dave Nathanson Mac Medix On 9/29/03 7:31 PM, chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] tapped the keyboard to say: >>Dave wrote: >>SpamFire goes around your regular email program & checks your Pop >>mailbox itself. It deletes the spam, and puts the good email back so your >>regular email program can pick them up. > >I didn't really take a good look at SpamFire the other day when I >downloaded it... but am I to understand you correctly that SpamFire >DOWNLOADS the mail, then filters it, then RESENDS it back to the SMTP >server to wait for you to collect it?!? > >First, what happens if you don't collect your mail, does SpamFire >continue that download/upload process on the same messages? > >2nd: What does it do about the SMTP Envelope headers that will now be >altered because it downloaded the messages and re uploaded them (ie: the >envelope will claim the message traces back to SpamFire rather than the >original source). Does it leave the proper chain of headers in place so >you can see where it was before SpamFire messed with it? If so, I guess >they just hope the ISP doesn't strip extra envelope headers (some do, >leaving you only with the last set of headers). > >Wouldn't it make WAY more sense to never download the message at all? >Read the message on the server, apply the filters, and if a message >should be filtered, delete it from the server. If a message shouldn't be >filtered, leave it alone to continue to wait on the server until you >collect your mail. > >Yes, that still downloads the message (can't read what isn't downloaded), >but it avoids the whole upload bandwidth/munge the envelope issue. > >-chris ><http://www.mythtech.net> ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of "unsubscribe" to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
