[EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 9/29/03 
2:27 PM -----

>>Well it looks like several addresses are there.  Sender, etc.  Why cannot 
>>they trace back to the original Sender and prosecute for knowingly sending 
>>a virus that has no other purpose but to impede communication, destroying 
>>information, computers etc.?  
>
>There was only one time I know of, where the FBI and other agencies were 
>able to trace a virus through pure "forensics". You have to find the 
>"first instance" of infection. It is no different than finding the source 
>of ebloa. You would think, that with 50 years of occasional outbreaks, we 
>would certainly know where Ebola comes from, but we don't. It just pops 
>up, because the tracks of the first people who get it cannot be totally 
>traced.
>
>Same with Viruses. In the early days, yes, a virus writer would simply 
>email it out. Now that one has been caught, they are much smarter. They 
>embed viruses into music files, porn files, blogs, web pages, etc. Once 
>the infection starts, they are gone.
>
>In addition, they never use their own account for that first posting. For 
>instance, lets say I hack into a users AOL account by guessing the 
>password. I might NEVER use that account, except to launch my payload. 
>Totally untraceable. It is terrorism, just like the terorists we fight 
>around the world are doing. Both are very patient, and while most of the 
>"virus variants" are simple hacks of existing viruses, and those 
>perpetrators often caught, the original authors are almost never caught. 
>The authors also use teenage contacts who they never disclose themselves 
>to to further add to the murkiness. This is global espionage/sabotage.
>
>To the casual user, it would seem simple. This stuff has gotten much more 
>covert, with suspected virus writers including the Chinese military, 
>terrorists, Russian and east european espionage agents, German spys, and 
>more. Many of the people left over idle from the cold war are still 
>working, but found new paymasters, like the various mafias and other 
>criminal and terrorist organizations.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned in this thread is the culpability of 
the folks - mostly Microsoft, yes - who leave security holes that the 
little script kiddies and other criminals can use for their crimes.

Jim DeWitt



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