5/01/04 Andy Barrus :

>I think my last hope lies with Data 
>Rescue. Never used it before but figure it's worth a try. 

You can even use the demos to recover one file per session. This would 
usually be unusable because the disk scan takes forever, but if you only 
need Emailer's DB (2 files), and maybe the addressbook file, you could 
loose less than an afternoon. Of course if the demo works for you and you 
can afford it, just buy any version(s) that fit your need (X-Classic-68k) 
as it will save a lot of time and efforts.

Data Rescue will only fail if:
- the user tells it the disk uses HFS when it really is HFS+ (or the 
opposite), because it's hard for a program to tell the difference, as 
HFS+ volumes are embedded in HFS volumes so that they would appear as 
empty with a TeachText note on older systems to advise the user not to 
erase the disk and to mount it under Mac OS 8.1 or later to access the 
data (which is pure genius and has no equivalent in the industry to my 
knowledge)
- the problem lies in SCSI settings or other cabling issues
- the hardware is broken


>This is a 9 GB SCSI that was about half full. It's not worth the $ to 
>send for professional recovery.

If you give up but can afford a few bucks for shipping, I'd be happy to 
give it a try as I'm currently surrounded with a lot of old SCSI 
equipment that have no clear purpose.

SCSI disks can behave strangely for various reasons and there is no 
absolute solution to this because it depends not only on the cabling and 
terminators you use, but also on the mac and disk models (not all macs 
require the same cabling/termination). A particular setup can even cease 
to work although it did previously and go back to normal after changing 
some cables, termination settings, and SCSI ID numbers although those new 
settings wouldn't have worked before (it happened to me and I never found 
any reason for it -- no bad part I could find, setup in clear 
contradiction with what used to work on that mac, etc., maybe a change in 
the OS or drivers)

As Frank Rader said, you could try to add or remove other SCSI 
peripherals to/from the same daisy-chain (some macs like 8600/9600 have 2 
SCSI chains, with internal HDs on a separate fast SCSI controller).

If you are comfortable with this, you could take apart the disk's 
enclosure or the mac and try to change settings directly on the disk 
using jumpers (jumper settings may be shown on the disk but SCSI disks 
usually lack those stickers, yet many are available online like in IBM's 
tech docs):
- with and without a termination jumper
- with and without a "unit attention" jumper (some disks require the 
controller host to tell them to spin up or else they stay idle and appear 
as "not ready" in most disk utilities, some macs and SCSI cards do send 
that signal, some don't)
- with other SCSI IDs
- with and without other SCSI peripherals, cables and terminators

You could use Horst Pralow's Mt. Everything (free) or other utilities to 
check various info and try to spin up the drive if necessary.
http://www.overnet.de/hhp/mte/
Mt. Everything (and its interesting documentation covering more than you 
want to know about SCSI)


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VRic

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