Hmm .. you can test that yourself, but then there are already tools
for that kind of testing, rt-tests in the linux kernel tree :-D ,
check out the rt-wiki ... however different tools gives different
values most time ... ( it's true, time is relative ).
 I don't remember if they did a libfor those tools , in that case one
can use it to test..... best of both worlds.

 Still I like the idea of a simulator, that means you can run a
rt-preempt built binary without rt-preempt ( ans worse timing , but
with nice pictures :-D ) ... and with preempt you can run hardware.

 Now I really think the LiveCD is good, and I don't want to drop
support for RTAI, XENOMAI, RTLinux .... or whatever, since they fill a
slightly different need. Especially since  ( as has been pointed out )
rt-preempt has a big penalty on small ARM platforms since the
interrupts runs in threads ( kernel threads that is ) which incur the
cost of a context switch .... and the same for some other systems
needing short time in the feedback loop.

 / Lars


2012/8/29 EBo <[email protected]>:
> Why just the simulator.  When we really get PREEMPT working, then it
> can also run a machine.  What would be nice is if we had some simple
> analytical tool that would run with the latency tester that would give
> some indication on how fast the motors can move/track on a given
> installation...
>
>    EBo --
>
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:16:27 +0200, Michael Haberler wrote:
>> EBo,
>>
>> I have no opinion on gentoo vs other distros
>>
>> However, I think creating a LinuxCNC *simulator* package and pushing
>> this into some repo stream whould be a great way to improve LinuxCNC
>> visibility - the CD requirement is a bit of a turnoff for a casual
>> evaluator.
>>
>> A bit like giving away drugs in front of the school.. the first shot
>> is free ;)
>>
>> -m
>>
>>
>> Am 29.08.2012 um 14:02 schrieb EBo:
>>
>>> If we moved to the Gentoo platform I would be willing to develop
>>> ebuilds to maintain it.  Actually I have a set, but they are out of
>>> date
>>> at this point.  It has also been awhile, but I have sunrise overlay
>>> access and am willing to work on becoming an official gentoo
>>> developer.
>>>
>>>   EBo --
>>>
>>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:34:36 +0200, Michael Haberler wrote:
>>>> as discussed in the context of Daniel Rogge's proposed parameter
>>>> patch, I have moved ahead with redis integration into master.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://git.mah.priv.at/gitweb/emc2-dev.git/shortlog/refs/heads/redis-integration
>>>> now has all the footwork to integrate and build redis-server,
>>>> redis-cli, the hiredis C API, and the Python bindings from a
>>>> snapshot.
>>>> It also contains linuxcnc.in changes to by default start
>>>> redis-server
>>>> when running linuxcnc. This branch does not contain any code in
>>>> LinuxCNC which actually uses redis; it's just the parts kit needed
>>>> to
>>>> do so.
>>>>
>>>> see README here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://git.mah.priv.at/gitweb/emc2-dev.git/blob/f7352315a7153166518ffe6efbcd2caaee021780:/src/redis/README
>>>>
>>>> This is a lot of lines of C and then some other languages. It is a
>>>> stopgap measure until we build on a platform which can apt-get the
>>>> packages which just arent available for 10.04. This branch builds
>>>> also
>>>> on 8.04.
>>>>
>>>> I will clean this branch a bit, and merge it into master in the
>>>> coming days.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> As for using redis, I'm working on redoing Daniel Rogge's patch to
>>>> use redis, and this progresses nicely. The foundations work, the
>>>> whole
>>>> thing is unpolished, and parameter persistence to replace emc.var
>>>> isnt
>>>> in place yet. Daniel & folks have signed up as guinea pigs ;)
>>>>
>>>> For the curious, the WIP branch is here:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://git.mah.priv.at/gitweb/emc2-dev.git/shortlog/refs/heads/redis-params
>>>> . It is based on the above, but is not ready for merging yet. The
>>>> finished branch will contain examples to use this API from Python,
>>>> standalone and in a PyGTK app. It is in principle possible to
>>>> integrate this into a TkInter app too, based on the twisted tkinter
>>>> reactor. That I would add only if I get a clear indication of
>>>> desire.
>>>>
>>>> so: toldya, warnedya.
>>>>
>>>> - Michael
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