Am 03.03.2013 um 21:15 schrieb Sebastian Kuzminsky: > On 03/03/2013 12:56 PM, Tom Easterday wrote: >> On Mar 3, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Kent A. Reed <[email protected]> wrote: >>> It seems to me things are stabilizing to the point where the Xenomai >>> builds need no longer be considered experimental. IMHO, we should >>> consider posting Xenomai metrics to the Wiki for easier comparison. >> This reminds me.... Is there a roadmap document anywhere that shows what we >> can expect for upcoming/future releases? >> For example, questions I have are... Will 2.6.0 be on 10.04 or 12.04 or >> both? Will new rt kernel options be incorporated? > > I don't know anything about roadmaps, and I don't speak for anyone but > myself. We're not really a roadmap kind of organization. We're a much > more anarchic and loosely-organized bunch.
you or me too ;-? as a diagnosis I actually agree; it certainly this does not match my experience that this situation counts as success factor as non-trivial software projects go As always, anybody can do as he pleases, plus - there are consequences. In the LinuxCNC case, the consequence of the non-roadmap, minimal collaborative efforts, everybody-for-himself-patching-along style is obvious: there is almost no chance of removing fundamental defects which are so large that they dont fit the minimal patch repair pattern because they need a plan, and more manpower than a single person can sustainably contribute in such a setting. That of course does not exclude genial singular contributions which really propel things ahead, and that has happened in the past. But geniuses are rare and a fickle breed, and tend to go on to more interesting ventures eventually. So from a project perspective given average non-geniuses like the occasional MBA, coordination and plans are the bread-and-butter to make larger efforts work, which is why I think the current situation is a defect. It is tempting to redeclare the current situation as 'stable' and hence desirable, which makes the current non-coordinative style look like a virtue - and when that is the perception, fundamental changes are implicitly perceived as detrimental to 'stability' and hence non-desirable. One need not look very far to find examples for that stance; even if others might interpret the situation as busily rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic. There is a fine line between stability and petrification, and occasional reflection helps to see on which side of that line one actually stands. My experience is that division-of-labor does work, even with this project - the new RTOS work actually had a bit of a plan, and several substantial contributors; without collaboration and a bit of coordination it would not be where it is now. -- I want to take this opportunity to express my gratitude to both Charles Steinkuehler and John Morris in particular, who have decided to chip in and work many hours to make this fly, all based on a faint call to arms on IRC and emails from somebody they've never met - Michael > > > That said, I expect that 2.6, when it's released, will run with RTAI on > 8.04 (Hardy) and 10.04 (Lucid). The 2.6-pre branch currently works on > these platforms, and i will put in effort to make sure that doesn't > break before the release. > > LinuxCNC 2.6 may also run with RTAI on 12.04 (Precise), it doesn't > currently but I'm actively working to try to make that happen. > > LinuxCNC 2.6 may also run with Xenomai and/or Preempt-rt on some set of > Ubuntu distros, but i don't (yet) know much about that. > > > -- > Sebastian Kuzminsky > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. > Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics > Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb _______________________________________________ Emc-developers mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
