Andy
sorry didnt get this out earlier, had to go out of town for work
(yay work :)
but
yes, there is no acceleration limit while edming
( for heidenhain sink eroders, i doubt you'll find as much internal
info from other mfctrs )

some may say that ignoring acc is just wrong
but thats not from experience in this process

in edm, we dont consider/remember/use the velocity of the previous servo 
cycle

this system works and is tested

i include imagebin url for the diagram

specifically
the acceleration is ignored during cutting
( labeled 'in gapcontrol' on diagram)
and respected during positioning
( labeled 'in positioning' on diagram ).

and for S&G, this weekends repair result
videobin url   https://videobin.org/+8v4/brq.html

hth
TomP tjtr33

imagebin url for control strategy diagram:
http://ibin.co/1ypbbY4RbG7A


On 04/14/2015 11:02 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> On 11 April 2015 at 16:13, TJoseph Powderly <tjt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You may find that the adaptive feedrate idea is very wrong for edm.
>
> I think that the adaptive feed pin was introduced for wire EDM, and if
> it doesn't work properly for that then it ought to change.
>
>> so, imo the adaptive feed is incorrect
>> imo adaptive feed reduces the velocity to below the potential velocity
>> (the efficient target point of the control loop)
>> and thus forces inefficiency.
>
> If adaptive feed could be negative to retract or positive to advance
> at the programmed feed rate then I think it could still work properly.
>
>> I'd also suggest that there are 4 common forms of edm
>> Examining them shows their different TP strategies.
>
> I can only really see G-code and G-code reversal being useful for wire
> EDM. I think that the other applications would be rather better served
> by single-purpose motion control HAL modules.
>
> For example an orbital sink module would have X, Y and  orbit
> amplitude input pins and X and Y outputs that included the orbital
> amplitude (This would be very much like the module I have for
> polygonal turning on the lathe, except that the "spindle" speed would
> be a free-running counter incrementing at a settable rate.
>
> The Z position output would increment/decrement depending on gap voltage.
>
> Are you suggesting that there is no acceleration limitation in a
> normal sink eroder?
>


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