On Sunday 04 December 2016 11:19:04 Filipe Tomaz wrote: > In my lathe(s) I have VDI tooling. > Each tool settles only on its holder, and each tool is numbered. > So I will always use the same tool without changing offsets or angles. > Each time I need a new tool, I buy a new holder (VDI) so that my tool > library gets larger. This is expensive but is very effective at the > long run, due to time AND to avoid tool collisions. I even do this for > drilling where I keep each commun drill in each holder. > Bottom rule is that a lathe collision is very nasty and make you > think: "Why didn't I use the manual one ..." > I do not have a manual one. Everything I have is either run by gcode, or from the arrow keys on a keyboard.
> By the way, I sell toolholders :-) So there IS a method to the promotion. ;-) OTOH the reasoning makes perfect sense. No complaints from this old man, other than the cost of the toolholders, and a sensible storage scheme, all of which has to come out of my SS at some point. > Citando Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>: > > On Sunday 04 December 2016 08:36:35 Filipe Tomaz wrote: > >> Ok, but still it would be good that the machine could make the > >> "possible" part, skipping without damage the part and the tool. > >> On a later tool, the final toolpath could be reached if the > >> tool allows, and the user could in fact use the same programmed > >> tool path. > >> > >> This is my opinion. > >> > >> Citando andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>: > >> On 4 December 2016 at 11:35, Filipe Tomaz > >> <filipeto...@portugalmail.pt> wrote: > With this information > >> > >> is possible to "know" the points on the toolpath where the > >> tool can ACTUALLY REACH without damaging both the tool and the work > >> part. This would provide a large improvement even over standard > >> industrial controllers. > >> > >> We already have a warning about this. > > > > I think thats a good idea, great in fact. My problem is that of > > putting the tool angle at the best compromise for my instant job, > > usually by eye, driving the tool to various locations to see if this > > angle can do it, and not telling the tooltable because I've no quick > > and accurate enough device to measure the angle. The pro's here > > probably do know how or have a measuring tool. I believe thats > > largely my fault because I believe the tool table can now accept the > > left and right angles of the face of the tool, plus the tip radii if > > its known. But looking all that up, if indeed it's even published > > for every tool in the drawer, is a right PITA. > > > > How successful we are depends on our ability to be able to type > > the 4 or 5 character chip style itself into a slot in the tool > > table, and the angle of the lengthwise axis of the tool holder, and > > let the tooltable code do the lookups to control all of that. > > Leaving a single variable up to a SWAG by me is an invite for a > > disaster. > > > > I would offer the guess that the uptake of such an idea in the > > onsies to tensies shops would be considerably higher if a one time > > tooltable entry really could cover a single tool holder that well. > > It sure would promote the tool holder sales for our quick change > > posts. :) > > > > G71-72 and this raspi.driver I'm trying to crash and haven't in > > 2.8 final, the tool table might be LinuxCNC-3.0 stuff maybe? > > > > My $0.02, probably ignoreable. Got to get me ready to go to a > > musical/dinner. > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > -- > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >---------- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's > > most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-developers mailing list > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/li > >sts/listinfo/emc-developers > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >-------- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's > most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
