We run into this quite often, and yes, I do consider the PCB measurement   
to be a valid measurement of the PCB temperature whether you are on a   
pad, a trace, or laminate.  My experience with agencies is that they   
agree, and will allow (for example) a power resistor to be as hot as it's   
manufacturer says it can be, as long as the PCB underneath is not   
exceeding its limit.

You may already be aware of this, but be careful of making measurements   
right on the pad (or any bare live part) for 2 reasons.  The first is   
that some (inferior) temperature measurement equipment gives bad readings   
when noise is introduced onto the thermocouple by placing it on a noisy   
bare live part.  It is easy to check for this by turning the EUT on and   
off and seeing if the temperature reading instantly changes by a large   
amount.  The second thing to watch out for are the common-mode and   
channel-to-channel voltage ratings of the temperature meter

We use one of 2 methods to get around the problem you describe.  The   
first, if overhead clearance will allow it, is to raise the part off the   
board (usually needs 1/8" or more) using a spacer or by lead-forming a   
kink into the leads.  The second is to put a barrier of some sort between   
the part and the PCB.  We've seen as much as a 10C improvement on PCB   
temperatures when mounting hot parts flush on a piece of 0.010" Nomex.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Jim Eichner
Statpower Technologies Corp.
Burnaby, B.C., Canada
[email protected]
Any opinions expressed are those of my invisible friend, who really   
exists.  Honest.


 -----Original Message-----
From: HarrisK@anetMHS (Kevin Harris){MHS:[email protected]}
Sent: Monday, September 15, 1997 6:20 PM
To: emc-pstc@anetMHS ("EMC-PSTC E-mail"){MHS:[email protected]};   
JEichner; bceresne
Subject: EN 60950 and component heating

   

Hello All,

In testing some product for excessive temperatures I have come up
against the following problem. Consider a diode (part of a bridge
rectifier circuit) and the PCB underneath the component. If one measures
the temperature of the diode it does not come close to the specification
for the part. However if we place a thermocouple on the pad where the
diode is attached to the PCB and we consider that as a temperature
measurement for the PCB material itself ,then the temperature obtained
is above the board manufacturers spec of 110 C (when we take into
account our maximum permissible ambient  temperature of 49 C). By the by
all this is NOT operator accessible if that makes any difference.

Questions.

1. Is this a valid temperature measurement for the PCB? I'm of two minds
on this. It could said that I'm really measuring the diodes temperature
and not the PCB. On the other hand the diode pad does touch the PCB .

2.Would it be more reasonable to measure the temperature in the same
neighborhood as the pad but make sure that the probe does not touch the
PCB pad?  Would a notified body be of the same opinion?

3.If you feel that the first method is a valid measurement technique
then do you know of any ways to work around the problem? There are many
power devices that can easily and safely exceed a PCB material spec of
only 110 C.

Thanks for your opinions!


Best Regards,


Kevin Harris

email [email protected]

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