Hi, I agree with Ron that UL cannot require a product to be Listed. However, UL is the only NRTL I know that regularly host meeting with local electrical inspectors, unless they have stopped that practice. It was my understanding that UL used this forum to influence electrical inspectors, as well as, inform them of new standards. Exerting this influence could easily be contrived as controlling the approval requirement.
Donald A. Hanson, Mgr. MBD Product Safety Engineering Phone:(503) 627-1822 FAX (503) 627-3838 email: [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 1:37 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re[2]: US NRTL required ? > > Hi Peter & Tania, > > "Require? No. Will they? Yes,". I'm intrigued. When will this breakover > > occur? Also, I'm curious. How is UL, as a NRTL, able to require Listing > of any > product in any product category? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel a > NRTL is > able to List a product, not require a product to be Listed. I believe > that it's > the responsibility of a higher power, such as OSHA, the 29CFR series, the > > National Electric Code or Canadian Electric Code, and/or others to make > that > call. > > Or, is there a move afoot to elevate UL's status? :-) > > I'm just trying to get clarification. Please advise. > > Best regards, > Ron Pickard > [email protected] > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator > _________________________________ > Subject: RE: US NRTL required ? > Author: "Peter Tarver" <[email protected]> at INTERNET > Date: 9/22/98 11:17 AM > > > Require? No. Will they? Yes, under certain circumstances and certain > product categories, like ITE. Laptops for instance. > > Peter L. Tarver > Nortel > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Grant, Tania (Tania) [SMTP:[email protected]] > > Sent: Monday, September 21, 1998 6:24 PM > > > > Thank you, Peter, for your clarification. > > > > You used the past tense below;-- does this mean that NOW UL does require > > > Listing > > when connected to a Class 2 power source????? > > > > I definitely recall many years ago a CSA engineer telling me that we > > need not have submitted a device attached to a CSA Certified power > > source, but since he was here already, I went through the process > > anyway. > > > > Tania Grant, Lucent Technologies, Octel Messaging Division > > [email protected] > > > > > > ---------- > > From: Peter Tarver[SMTP:[email protected]] > > Sent: Monday, September 21, 1998 1:18 PM > > > > I just came across some typographical errors. My apologies. > > Please refer to the below for corrections in "<<<text>>>". > > > > Peter > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tarver, Peter [MPK:4N02:EXCH] > > Sent: Monday, September 21, 1998 9:40 AM > > > > In paragraph 1 - > > > > For a long time, UL (and I believe CSA) thought any > > device deriving power from a Class 2 source > > <<<did not need>> listing. > > > > In paragraph 4 - > > > > > Table SA12.1 indicates that single alkaline-<<<manganese>>> > > dioxide D cells, > > > nickel-cadmium AA, C and D cells are all capable of delivering > > greater than > > > 8A at one minute of loading. I find this strange, but my > > discussions with > > > Randy Ivans indicate that there is data to support these > > claims. > > --------- > This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. > To cancel your subscription, send mail to [email protected] > with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" (without the > quotes). For help, send mail to [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], or > [email protected] (the list administrators). > > > > > --------- > This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. > To cancel your subscription, send mail to [email protected] > with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" (without the > quotes). For help, send mail to [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], or > [email protected] (the list administrators). --------- This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to [email protected] with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" (without the quotes). For help, send mail to [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], or [email protected] (the list administrators).
