UL cannot require a company to List or not List anything. In some cases I
have Listed a Class 2 device and in some cases I have not depending upon the
business case. I once called a major manufacture of Class 2 home
intercom/radio equipment and asked what did. They indicated that they have
never obtained Listing for Class 2 devices and electrical inspectors have
never been a problem.

Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
[email protected]
Views expressed by the author do not necessarily represent those of
Sensormatic.


> ----------
> From:         Grant, Tania (Tania)[SMTP:[email protected]]
> Reply To:     Grant, Tania (Tania)
> Sent:         Monday, September 21, 1998 9:23 PM
> To:   PSTC - articles; 'Peter Tarver'
> Subject:      RE: US NRTL required ?
> 
> Thank you, Peter, for your clarification.
> 
> You used the past tense below;-- does this mean that NOW UL does require
> Listing 
> when connected to a Class 2 power source?????
> 
> I definitely recall many years ago a CSA engineer telling me that we
> need not have submitted a device attached to a CSA Certified power
> source, but since he was here already, I went through the process
> anyway.
> 
>       Tania Grant, Lucent Technologies, Octel Messaging Division
>       [email protected]
> 
> 
>       ----------
>       From:  Peter Tarver[SMTP:[email protected]]
>       Sent:  Monday, September 21, 1998 1:18 PM
>       To:  PSTC - articles
>       Subject:  RE: US NRTL required ?
> 
>       I just came across some typographical errors.  My apologies.
> Please refer
>       to the below for corrections in "<<<text>>>".
> 
>       Peter
> 
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From:   Tarver, Peter [MPK:4N02:EXCH] 
>               Sent:   Monday, September 21, 1998 9:40 AM
> 
>               In paragraph 1 -
> 
>               For a long time, UL (and I believe CSA) thought any
> device deriving
>       power
>               from a Class 2 source<<<did not need>> listing. 
> 
>               In paragraph 4 -
> 
>       > Table SA12.1 indicates that single alkaline-<<<manganese>>>
> dioxide D
>       > cells,
>       > nickel-cadmium AA, C and D cells are all capable of delivering
> greater
>       > than
>       > 8A at one minute of loading.  I find this strange, but my
> discussions with
>       > Randy Ivans indicate that there is data to support these
> claims.
>       > 
> 
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