At 09:13 AM 10/11/1998 +0000, James, Chris wrote:
>Some S American countries quote +/-10%, whether they actually do vary
>that much I don't know.

No, they don't vary that much.  I grew up in Brazil and I certainly would
have noticed if my TV acted up and kept dropping out of sync.  Also my
record player (it had strobe bars).

I'm not sure why various countries quote frequency tolerances, but in fact
the actual variation is very minimal.  Otherwise, nobody would be able to
watch their TVs.

>As for clocks - most nowadays are xtal controlled. The older mains
>dervied clocks certainly in the UK relied on the fact that the
>generating companies time averaged the frequency variation to zero over
>a 24 hour period........... as I recall

Well, there are still an awful lot of ac driven clocks around.  But yes, as
you and Chris Dupres point out, the total number of cycles is averaged out
over 24 hrs.  All the power companies that I am aware of do this.  This is
true in the US, Canada, UK, Brazil; indubitably most of the civilized world.

>All generators on a grid "slave" each other so they remain in sync -
>it's not a matter of getting two independent grids exactly in phase and
>then connecting them.

Hmm ... interesting ...

How do they do this?  Are all the generating stations connected by radio or
microwave links?  I don't see how they can do this unless the frequency is
very stable.  If one generator is off by a fraction of a precent, they
would all have to be.  This could be a nightmare, trying to get everybody
synchronized to a variable frequency.  The last time I took a power course
was over 30 years ago.  At that time, the prof (ex Bonneville Power Admin.
staff) stated that all interconnected power grids maintained very exact
frequency and phase.  If this is not correct, then I want a refund on my
course!

Egon :-)




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