Hi all! I believe that we at TUV Rheinland are in the final stages of approval to be able to issue Canadian approvals. My understanding is that the approval process is complete but we are still getting the our mark trademarked. We may have this done early next year.
Frank West Sr. Engineer TUV Rheinland NA --- [email protected] wrote: > > S. William, > > Thanks for the words on COs and TOs and SCCs. > Apparantly UL is one or > more of these, as the c-UL mark is legally > acceptable in Canada. > > Now, what other COs has the SCC accredited to issue > an approved Canadian > mark? Not CSA, but alternatives to CSA? > > George > > ---------------------- Forwarded by George > Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark on 11/23/99 > 07:57 AM --------------------------- > > swilliam%[email protected] on 11/22/99 > 05:02:15 PM > > To: George_Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark@LEXMARK > cc: > emc-pstc%[email protected] > (bcc: George > Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark) > Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance > > > > George, Canada is not as straight forward as that. > There is not a mutual > agreement. In order for a lab to issue a Canadian > Approval Mark, the lab > must be accredited as a CO(Certifying Organization) > by the SCC(Standards > Council of Canada). The CO must use data that has > come from a TO(Testing > Organization) that is also accredited by the SCC. > Most labs that issue > their Canada Mark are both a CO and TO so it is very > easy for them. The > critical item is that the product has to have been > tested against the > relevant Canadian National Standard(very easy for > ITE as 1950 is a joint > standard). > If you want to do everything by the book, your US > Mark should be from an > NRTL certified by OSHA to the standards that apply > to your product and the > Canadian Mark must be from a CO accredited by the > SCC. > > > Please respond to [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > cc: (bcc: Steve Williams/SDD/NAM/APCC) > From: [email protected] on 11/22/99 03:42 PM > Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance > > > I tried to recall NRTLs that were approved for > asessments of ITE to > UL1950. I did not overlook MET (listed in my note), > but may have > missed NTS which may fit this description. I'm not > sure the others > are sanctioned for listing of ITE under UL1950. > > There are many NTRLs, including UL. There is no > "NRTL" mark, as all > NRTLs are legally equal. The mark of some NRTLs has > included the > letters "NRTL" as part of their mark, apparantly by > choice. The > CSA/NRTL mark is an example. To my knowledge, the > use of "NRTL" in > an agency's mark is not mandatory. CSA has recently > changed their > mark to drop the "NRTL" and simply show the CSA mark > with "US" > subscript for assessment to the U.S. stadnard. > > However, Canada does not recognize the U.S. NRTLs to > assess an ITE > product to the Canadian standard. There is a mutual > agreement between > Canada and the U.S. that "allows" a UL assessment to > the Canadian ITE > safety standard. This results in the UL mark with a > subscript "C", > often called the "c-UL" mark. It is my > understanding that when the > Canadian government bids out ITE for its own use, > they tend to prefer > the CSA mark over the c-UL mark. This seems to > violate the "spirit" > of the agreement, but who can force them to do > otherwise? > > George Alspaugh > > (Some or all of the above may reveal ignorance on my > part, which can > be "cured" by more enlightened appends to follow.) > > > > > --------- > This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion > list. > To cancel your subscription, send mail to > [email protected] > with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" > (without the > quotes). For help, send mail to [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], or > [email protected] (the list > administrators). > > > ===== Frank West Senior Engineer TUV Rheinland of North America NW/Portland OR Office __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping. --------- This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to [email protected] with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" (without the quotes). For help, send mail to [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], or [email protected] (the list administrators).
