Max, I remember seeing the same show and years later a show on PBS about
that show.  Bottom line: although the rate of cancer seemed  high, it was
still within the statistical norm for the population.  

Now many years ago, and I mean decades ago a statistical type was studying
Leukemia rates among Line Men (High Tension Line works) for an insurance
company, to find out why they had double the rate of Leukemia for the
general population.   His conclusion was?  That the electrical fields
somehow were the problem.  He went on to conclude that all electrical
workers and ham radio operators were being harmed.

Bottom Line: Years later and with no fanfare in the press it was found that
the PCB's which were in the wire insulation and transform oil (which were
spilled all over the place) were the real cause of the Leukemia.  By the
time the "Bad Science" was over, even sleeping with an electric blanket
would kill you.  Did you throw yours away? (By the way, PCB's were banned
after that "Good Science").  And the bottom of Boston harbor is still
covered two feet deep in PCB's oils to this day.

The press loves Bad Science because "it could be true!" and "it sell
newspapers" or "better ratings on the nightly news".

There's my two cents and change for a dollar. 

Al Patrick

Note!  These opinions are my own and not of my employers.  The names have
been changes to protect the guilty.  Batteries not included.  

 

 -----Original Message-----
From:   [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent:   Thursday, December 02, 1999 3:38 PM
To:     [email protected]
Subject:        RE: Cell Phone Hazards?


I remember seeing a television show quite a while ago where researchers had
found an extremely high cancer rate in children in one neighborhood with a
power substation.  The rate for adults, however, was normal.

One researcher said she believed that the higher rate for children might be
due to the fact that they were very active in running back and forth and
playing ball, etc.  This caused them to cut through the magnetic fields at a
much higher rate than adults.  This line of thought leads to the possibility
that there may be more to consider than just simple warming of tissue.

        Max Kelson
        Evans & Sutherland

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Barry Ma [mailto:[email protected]]
                Sent:   Thursday, December 02, 1999 11:48 AM
                To:     [email protected]
                Cc:     [email protected]
                Subject:        Re: Cell Phone Hazards?


                Jon,

                You are right. When we get in our cars we have some risk. By
the same token, when we are home the risk is still not zero. If we go
climbing the risk would go even higher. The point is we know what is the
risk and how to protect ourselves. But the risk related to cell phone is not
as clear as driving, climbing, and staying home.

                Barry Ma
                Anritsu Company 
                -------------
                On Wed, 01 December 1999, Jon Griver wrote:

                > It seems to me quite possible that electromagnetic fields
with strengths
                > below the 'tissue heating' level may have a detrimental
effect. After all
                > we know that electrical impulses are intimately connected
with the brain's
                > operation, and we are dealing with fields an order of
magnitude stonger
                > than those used in radiated immunity testing for
electrical and electronic
                > equipment. We only expect electronic equipment to be
immune to 3V/m, but we
                > subject our brains to 20 to 30V/m when we use a cell
phone.
                > 
                > This being said, the cell phone is very convenient, and
has become a part
                > of our way of life. I use a cell phone, though as little
as possible,
                > knowing that there is a possible risk, in the same way as
I know I risk my
                > life every time I get in my car.
                > 
                > Jon Griver


        
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