Barry Ma wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As the speed of digital signals gets faster and faster, people begin being 
> concerned 
> with the distance for electric charge to move on power and ground planes of 
> multilayer 
> PCB during the signal rise time from a decoupling capacitor (cap) to a chip 
> it serves. 
> I would like to raise two questions.
> 
> (1) The charge is moving in a metalic plane, not inside the dielectric 
> between pwr and 
> gnd planes. Please let me know why you have to use the propagation velocity 
> in the 
> dielectric, instead of that in the metal.

Simple.  The power/ground plane construction is 
a 2-dimensional transmission line.  Just as you 
determine the velocity of propagation in a 
1-dimensional transmission line, the dielectric 
is part of the equation for the capacitive 
component.  And so it follows with the planar 
construction. 

> (2) The second question is regarding distance between the cap and the chip. 
> Do we 
> really have to limit the distance letting the charge have enough time to move 
> from 
> the cap to the chip during the rise time interval? I doubt it. 

Depends.  Distance can mean inductance. 

Since, v(t) = L di/dt and with L in nano-henries (10^-9) 
and suppose dt in pico-seconds (10^-12), we're already 
up in the 10^3 range ...                 - Doug McKean

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