Hello Tania and All Members, 

Al is well said, but allow me to add one additional fact.

UL also Lists COMPONENTS which an electrician might use in the field; for
example closed-loop connectors, quick-disconnet connectors, splicing
connectors, fixture wiring, circuit breakers, outlet boxes, etc. These
components undergo more rigorous testing than normal components and are
always provided with installation instructions limiting the usage; for
example a splicing connector may specify the exact crimping tool and the #
and size of all the combination of wires to be spliced by that connector.

Best Regards

At 18:50 10/05/2000 -0700, Grant, Tania (Tania) wrote:
>
>John,
>
>The  'UbackwardsR' mark'  is but one of many UL marks.   This is the UL
>Recognition Mark;--  there are also UL Listing Marks, UL Classification
>Marks, and perhaps others that I have forgotten.    And you are correct that
>only UL can issue UL marks.    However, UL can do this based on CB Scheme
>reports, provided you have also complied with the U.S. National Electrical
>Code requirements, which are spelled out as deviation in the UL1950
>standard.   You should be looking at the UL1950, 3rd edition, which is also
>harmonized with the Canadian Standards Association and its Electrical Code.
>(Kill 2 birds with one stone!)
>
>Generally speaking, the UL Listing Mark is for end-use product, such as
>coffee pots, computers, and finished things one can generally buy in the
>store that perform a function.    UL Recognition Marks are for components
>and incomplete assemblies that are to be placed inside end-use products,
>where their recognition still has to be evaluated in this final application.
>For example, power supplies, such as UPS, electronic load boxes, or desk
>type boxes with power cords which are used for test equipment, would be UL
>Listed.    However, power supplies   (transformer/capacitor/choke/etc.
>circuitry mounted on a printed circuit card) that are sub-assemblies of
>assorted computer products, would be UL Recognized.    That means that this
>power supply would be further tested in you end-use product to be sure that
>you are not overloading it, and that you are using it within its rated
>specifications.  
>
>You might find the following web sites helpful.
>
>               http://ulstandardsinfonet.ul.com/
><http://ulstandardsinfonet.ul.com/> 
>
>               http://www.ul.com/ <http://www.ul.com/> 
>
>Tania Grant, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>Lucent Technologies, Intelligent Network Unit
>Messaging Solutions Group
>
>
>----------
>From:  Jon Keeble [SMTP:[email protected]]
>Sent:  Wednesday, May 10, 2000 4:05 PM
>To:  [email protected]
>Subject:  UL certification and Underwriter Laboratory
>
>
>I work for an Australian  company that has always assumed that 'having UL'
>means 'having the 'UbackwardsR' mark'.
>
>The facts as I understand them are
>(1) a UL1950 certificate is required
>(2) only an NRTL can issue this certificate
>(3) The CB scheme was created to allow people in countries like Australia 
>    to achieve accreditation in other countries (including the US) through
>their local test house
>(4) the mark of any test house qualified to issue a UL1950 certificate is
>all that is required
>
>In our case, there are people in neighboring countries that
>(1) participate in the CB scheme
>(2) recognize some Australian test houses (none of which can issue UL1950)
>(3) are qualified to issue 1950
>
>Our marketing department is fearful that not having the 'UbackwardsR' mark
>will raise questions in
>the mind of prospective customers.
>
>I'd be very appreciative of some candid feedback.
>
>
>
>
>-----------------------------
>Jon Keeble          
>Fairlight
>Hardware Engineering Manager
>02 8977 9931
>[email protected]
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