Jon, 

Regarding point #1: 

 Think of it this way ... 

 UL "Listing" (UL logo) means system level, compliant 
 with some standard for a "system" under a lot of 
 conditions.  Mostly along the lines of construction 
 AND performance. 

 UL "UbackwardsR" means component level, a restricted 
 compliance with a standard.  As in the case of 
 transformers, compliant possibly only by way of 
 construction. 

 Assembling a bunch of parts that have component 
 level approval together into a system isn't 
 sufficient for the system to be automatically 
 approved. The system must be tested. 

 Alternatively, a system which is "Listed" that 
 was put together with a bunch of unapproved parts 
 does not make the parts automatically approved 
 for use in another system. 

Regarding point #2: 

 UL is the only NRTL which can apply the UbackwardsR 
 for component approval or the UL logo for system 
 Listing. It's a trademark of UL.  ETL is another 
 NRTL which has their trademarked logo for product 
 listing. 

Regarding point #3: 

 I believe there's a review within the CB scheme for 
 local variations once you've you've passed.  But I 
 believe your premise is solid. 

Regarding question #4: 

 Not sure how to answer that one since I'm not sure 
 what's meant by "certificate".  A qualified test 
 house is an NRTL or is in association with an NRTL 
 (they do testing then pass along the results to the 
 NRTL for review).  The NRTL allows applying their 
 logo to your product. 

Regarding the final points raised 
by your marketing people: 

- IF your product is a component, or is an assembly 
  that can be considered a component (like a transformer 
  or even a power supply), then they're correct. 

- IF your product is some stand alone system, then 
  you'll have to go for "Listing". 

Regards, Doug McKean

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