Richard,

What is the test plan for making and breaking under load?  In general, power
supplies take a little bit of time to start up, so making contact under load
is not going to be an issue.  UL has specified a 200 cycle disconnect test
and all they are concerned with is condition of the contacts afterward.
They do not specify how fast you have to plug the supply from the connector,
so this could be a factor.  Typically, they have a short signal pin that
must be fully seated for the supply to operate.  Once you start pulling the
supply, the signal pin breaks first and shuts down the high current before
those contacts break.  The slower you pull, the less likely you will draw an
arc.  Or course, the fast you pull, the shorter duration the arc.

Regards,

Glenn Lesmeister
Product Regulatory Compliance

Compaq Computer Corp.           Tel: 281-514-5163
20555 SH 249, MS60607           Fax: 281-514-8029
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[email protected]

"I am empowered to do what makes sense!"

 -----Original Message-----
From:   [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent:   Thursday, June 21, 2001 6:35 AM
To:     [email protected]
Subject:        RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?


We are currently evaluating a system with hot swappable power supplies and
PCBs and here is what we have found needs to be checked:

o       Earthing pin makes first and breaks last
o       Primary and secondary power connectors are rated for make/break
application
o       Access to hazardous voltages and energy hazards
o       Capacity of paralleled outputs may exceed energy hazard limits (we
are adding PTCs on the backplane for each PCB which are also hot swappable)




Richard Woods

        ----------
        From:  Richardson, William G [SMTP:[email protected]]
        Sent:  Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:50 PM
        To:  'Dan Teninty'
        Cc:  '[email protected]'
        Subject:  RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?


        There must be a bleeder resistor (across the X caps) to make the AC
input
        pins safe to touch once the supply is removed from the cabinet. 

        If there are exposed voltage or energy hazards with the supply
removed,
        there must be a restriction such that only trained personnel are
instructed
        to do this OR a tool must be used to remove the supply. 
         
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Dan Teninty [mailto:[email protected]]
        Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:16 PM
        To: Emc-Pstc@Majordomo. Ieee. Org
        Subject: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?



        Do any of my esteemed colleagues know of any specific requirements
in 60950
        (UL/CSA or EN) relating specifically to hot swappable power
supplies?  A
        search in the PDF version of UL/CSA 60950 reveals nothing specific
when
        searching for "hot", "swap", or "power supply". A visual search of
the TOC
        also reveals nothing specific.

        2.6.5.4 deals with :

        Parts that can be removed by an operator
        Protective earthing connections shall make earlier and break later
than the
        supply connections
        in each of the following:
        - the connector of a part that can be removed by an OPERATOR;
        - a plug on a power supply cord;
        - an appliance coupler.
        Compliance is checked by inspection.

        This is the most I could find that was related, and then it is
referring to
        the AC side.

        Thought I would triple check with the collective brain trust to be
sure.

        Appreciate any pointers to passages that I missed.

        Thanks,

        Daniel E. Teninty, P.E.
        Managing Partner
        DTEC Associates LLC
        Streamlining the Compliance Process
        5406 S. Glendora Drive
        Spokane, WA 99223
        (509) 443-0215
        (509) 443-0181 fax


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