From: Dick Grobner [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:01 PM
>............................................. I also know that the City of
>L.A. is a stickler for a third party mark on a medical device (and I would
>suspect other devices as will), if it isn't there you submit your device
>along with mounds of data to the cities electrical department, and pay the
>$2-3K for their inspection and sticker. 
>Overall, it makes good business sense to use a reputable third party NRTL
>when doing business.   

We ran into a situation in LA with a piece of recognized (back in the dys UL
resisted giving a listing to any piece of rack mount equipment) rack mount
equipment installed in a bank computer center. They would not issue the bank
an occupancy certificate unless the product was listed or there was field
evaluation of the installation by an NRTL and a listing is approved.

I have been following this thread and one comment that has not been made
that is quite relevant is; You do not want to be shopping around to NRTLs
for the best price all the time. Every NRTL is going to have yearly fees and
factory inspection fees not to mention the disruption of the factory during
the factory inspections (that could mean 4 x the number of NRTLs you have
product certified by).

If the goal is cost and cycletime reduction to certification setting up your
own safety lab and having it accredited ubder one of the client test data /
self certification programs such as ULs COMPASS, CSAs Category or TUVs ACT
will significantly reduce the cost of product certification and will cut the
cycltime in 1/2 or better. If your products are designed using approved
power supplies and you use certified components anywhere it has a safety
impact the lab you set up does not need to be very elaborate or take up much
space.

David Clement
Motorola Inc.
Global Homologation Engineering
20 Cabot Blvd.
Mansfield, MA 02048

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