Cortland, The three NRTLs that we have used require their mark to be on the product. They even have very strict guidelines as to how it is to appear. We have used TÜV Product Service, UL, and Intertek (ETL). In the case of UL if you look at the product listing information on their web site it even specifically says that the only proof that a product is listed is the UL mark on the product itself. In most cases there also is a number that is supposed to be used with the mark on the product. This number identifies the manufacturer of the product and in some cases the actual production location where there is more than one. NRTLs also have a big problem if you use their mark on a product that they did not test or in advertising for a product they did not test. UL especially protects their mark and will sue anyone using it that is not authorized to do so. So you definitely should not put the UL mark on a product that UL did not test even if it was tested to UL standards. If you manufacture commercial/industrial equipment the NRTL mark is what is checked by OSHA or the "Authority Having Jurisdiction" to ensure that electrical equipment used in the workplace is safe as is required by law.
Kurt Andrews Compliance Engineer Tracewell Systems, Inc. 567 Enterprise Drive Westerville, Ohio 43081 voice: 614.846.6175 toll free: 800.848.4525 fax: 614.846.7791 http://www.tracewellsystems.com/ <http://www.tracewellsystems.com/> -----Original Message----- From: Courtland Thomas [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:05 PM To: emcpost Subject: Product Marking Hello group, I have a question concerning labeling a product. If we go to a NRTL and get Safety testing performed, we typically put the Safety logo (UL for example) on the product label. Our marketing people have a problem with having different logo's. They would like to standarize on a single logo such as UL. This kind of thinking hinders the process of getting the best price possible. I would like to get the testing performed at a lab which doesn't use UL. Would it be possible to just put "Conforms to UL 1950 and CAN/CSA 1950" on the label and forget the logo? Or is there a requirement to have a logo? Thanks, Courtland Thomas Patton Electronics ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: [email protected] with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: [email protected] Michael Garretson: [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected] ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: [email protected] with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: [email protected] Michael Garretson: [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected]

