I agree, many years ago we did exactly that, labeled the product as "conforms too _ _ _ _" before we started using an NRTL for product safety testing. Eventually the larger medical institutions and corporations got wise and started asking too see the third party NRTL mark on the product. Sense, we have all of our devices tested for compliance by an NRTL for product safety. We place this mark onto the product, our sales literature and within our user manuals. Does this bring in additional sales - unknown (not my expertise), but at least it shows due diligence on our part of providing a safe product to our customers (and in a law suit if it ever came to that). Some of our larger customers just look for this NRTL mark, and if it is on the product it moves right through their bureaucracy, if not we receive a phone call and we start to scramble. I also know that the City of L.A. is a stickler for a third party mark on a medical device (and I would suspect other devices as will), if it isn't there you submit your device along with mounds of data to the cities electrical department, and pay the $2-3K for their inspection and sticker. Overall, it makes good business sense to use a reputable third party NRTL when doing business.
Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:22 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: Product Marking Hi Courtland, For an NRTL approved product, it's generally a requirement that's captured in the agreement drawn between agency and client plus in their report for the product. In my experience, the wording "...conforms with...." won't mean much and would mean even less without the mark of an agency behind it and visible on your product. The NRTL's will generally insist on having their mark on a product they approve unless it's too small physically. In such an event, they tend to allow the packaging to be marked but that's a case-by-case item and fully at the discretion of the NRTL (for example some very small conductors might nor necessarily have all the info on the conductor insulation but it would likely be visible on the spool). Usually, the visible mark of a safety agency on a given product enhances marketing since it's the agency's declaration of their having deemed the product safe (as opposed to the manufacturer). My 2 cents and not that of my employer. Regards, Kaz Gawrzyjal [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Courtland Thomas [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 3:05 PM To: emcpost Subject: Product Marking Hello group, I have a question concerning labeling a product. If we go to a NRTL and get Safety testing performed, we typically put the Safety logo (UL for example) on the product label. Our marketing people have a problem with having different logo's. They would like to standarize on a single logo such as UL. This kind of thinking hinders the process of getting the best price possible. I would like to get the testing performed at a lab which doesn't use UL. Would it be possible to just put "Conforms to UL 1950 and CAN/CSA 1950" on the label and forget the logo? Or is there a requirement to have a logo? Thanks, Courtland Thomas Patton Electronics ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: [email protected] with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: [email protected] Michael Garretson: [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected] ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: [email protected] with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: [email protected] Michael Garretson: [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected] ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: [email protected] with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: [email protected] Michael Garretson: [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected]
