Courtland,

There is nothing in UL1950 that says you MUST have an NRTL logo . . . 
there are requirements for ratings/safety markings, but not a logo.

NRTLs typically have specifications on their logos, and how they must
appear/be
used. I don't recall seeing that you MUST apply the mark . . . 

Simply put, the NEC dictates (I don't have the exact location handy) that an
electrical/electronic 
product must be evaluated by an NRTL against the standard that is applicable
to that product. Once you have permission to apply a mark from an NRTL, you 
demonstrate the 'listing' by application of the logo. Electricians
(competent ones)
look for a logo and act accordingly. If they don't see one they may not 
wire it up, or they can unplug it (they have that right through the NEC).

On another note, using one NRTL over another does have it's advantages
(evaluation
cost aside). Some NRTL logos are more readily recognizable than others by
consumers.
In many cases that I've directly experienced, market pressure forced my to
use
one NRTL logo over another. It depends on your customer base. 
If your customers are regulatory savy, and understand the NRTL program, it
doesn't
matter who you use . . . 
Unfortunately, the average person does not know about any other logo other
than one particular prominent one. That makes it difficult . . . 

It is wise to evaluate your customer base from this respect. . . . 

The opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not necessarily
reflect those of
my employer . . . 

John Juhasz
Fiber Options
Bohemia, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Courtland Thomas [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:05 PM
To: emcpost
Subject: Product Marking



Hello group,

I have a question concerning labeling a product. If we go to a NRTL and get
Safety testing performed, we typically put the Safety logo (UL for example)
on the product label. Our marketing people have a problem with having
different logo's. They would like to standarize on a single logo such as UL.
This kind of thinking hinders the process of getting the best price
possible. I would like to get the testing performed at a lab which doesn't
use UL. Would it be possible to just put "Conforms to UL 1950 and CAN/CSA
1950" on the label and forget the logo? Or is there a requirement to have a
logo?

Thanks,

Courtland Thomas
Patton Electronics


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