We manufacture both Class A (ITE) and Class B (short range radio) devices
and treat margins equally.

Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
Tyco International


-----Original Message-----
From: Stone, Richard A (Richard) [mailto:rsto...@lucent.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:06 AM
To: 'Gary McInturff'; Doug McKean; EMC-PSTC Discussion Group
Subject: RE: EMI guard bands



Does anyone make Class A AND Class B
products?
if so, do you allow for a much smaller margin on the B
since its approx. 10 db quieter than A to start with.
or do you treat them equally.
Also Oats site to Oats site can differ as much as +/- 4 db
do to many factors.
any comments?
Richard,

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary McInturff [mailto:gary.mcintu...@worldwidepackets.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:19 PM
To: Doug McKean; EMC-PSTC Discussion Group
Subject: RE: EMI guard bands



        I hold with the 3 db under class B, as well as A. The only effective
argument, in my mind, is the uncertainty of measurement issue. Beyond that I
find that if I have 3 db everywhere my measurements next time down with that
product or with one off the shelf have also been compliant. So if pragmatic
repeated measurements is telling me I'm in then I am not going to spend the
time and money to make even more sure that I am in. The goal is to not
interfere with communications not to be invisible at all costs. If it ain't
broke I'm not fixing it.
        Obviously, others disagree. By the way if a customer requests it,
they get what they want, if they want to pay for it, and I have never
rejected products with a 3 db band - and they haven't bitten me yet either.
        My couple cents
        Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug McKean [mailto:dmck...@auspex.com]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:15 PM
To: EMC-PSTC Discussion Group
Subject: Re: EMI guard bands



"Tania Grant" wrote:
>
> Amund,
>
> My minimum criteria and recommendation has always been at least 6dB.
> However, how many engineering managers, upon finding a 1.5 dB margin
in
> their favor, rule "ship it"!

<nod>
Although in some markets, there are customers who
require -6dB under the Class A limit. Although if I had
it my way, I'd make it about -10dB under the limit.

- Doug McKean



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