Yes Ken, I agree. My humor only provided a grain of truth. Thanks for providing the whole pound :-)
Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division email [email protected] | dir +1 315 266 5128 | fax +1 315 797 8024 NetTest | 6 Rhoads Drive, Utica, NY 13502 | USA web www.nettest.com | tel +1 315 797 4449 | > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Javor [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:32 PM > To: Chris Maxwell; Cortland Richmond > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected] > Subject: Re: Car EMC, was bulk current injection testing > > A lot of humor is based on a deliberate misinterpretation of a common > phrase > or common wisdom. "Take my wife, PLEASE," Or the cute stress relief > advice > I got the other day. "To relieve a headache, fetch a bottle of > aspirin and > follow the directions: Take two aspirin and keep away from children." > > In this case the apparent contradiction is not one at all. The > automobile > requirements enforced on emissions protect radio receivers in other > automobiles and fixed radio receivers operating near roads, the > immunity > requirements protect your car from malfunctioning when Mr. Richmond's > rolling radio station is in the vicinity. Emission limits protect > broadcast > radio reception, while immunity limits protect non-antenna equipment > from > high powered transmissions. > > Not wishing to start another long thread, but I know I am not alone in > fantasizing about building a cell-phone jammer and operating it with > glee > when I follow some slow driver weaving down the road ahead of me with > a > phone cemented to his/her ear. > > on 1/10/02 4:03 PM, Chris Maxwell at [email protected] wrote: > > > That's interesting!! (See Cortland's message below) > > > > We as manufacturers have CENELEC and the FCC breathing down our neck > > over a few dBuV/m. > > > > We have the IEEE EMC and Functional Safety paper, all 50 some pages > of > > it, worried about the possibly catastrophic effects of a Palm Pilot > next > > to a crock pot. > > > > Meanwhile...Cortland ("KA5S" which stands for "Kills your Auto for 5 > > Seconds") here is running around town with 100Watts of electronic > > ignition stopping transmitter wired to his car. > > > > I mean, I like the job security of being a compliance guy and all... > but > > why do we bother? > > > > (Just meant as humor; I hope no offense is taken. However, if you > > think about it, all humor (including this email) needs to have a > grain > > of truth to be funny. > > > > Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division > > email [email protected] | dir +1 315 266 5128 | fax +1 315 > 797 > > 8024 > > > > NetTest | 6 Rhoads Drive, Utica, NY 13502 | USA > > web www.nettest.com | tel +1 315 797 4449 | > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Cortland Richmond [SMTP:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:30 PM > >> To: Ken Javor > >> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; > >> [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: ISO 11452-4 Bulk Current Injection Test > >> Requirements > >> > >> > >> A worst case -- "real world" -- is probably just behind a radio > >> equipped car, mounting a capacitively top-loaded > >> antenna at its rear edge, and about 600 watts of RF. > >> > >> With rather less power, 100 watts, I've occasionally seen adjacent > >> cars' engines stop when I transmit. It would be > >> interesting to see if RF at these levels got into electric cars' > motor > >> controllers. > >> > >> Cortland - KA5S > >> > >> (What I write here is mine alone. > >> My employer does not > >> Concur, agree or else endorse > >> These words, their mood, or thought.) > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: [email protected] with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson: [email protected] Dave Heald [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected] Jim Bacher: [email protected] All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.

