Yup, I stand corrected. The Listing mark must contain the parts I 
identified this morning, but section 1.7.1 (when you read donw the page far 
enough) says.

"Manufacturer's name or trade-mark or identification mark"
        And I don't see any exclusions following that comment.
        Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter L. Tarver [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 11:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: UL and multiple brand names



There seems to be some confusion regarding my question to
Kristiaan Carpentier, regarding using the Listing Mark
Control Number (LMCN) as the company ID for a product.  I
did not ask what a LMCN is.

For those who don't know me, I worked at UL for over ten
years and possess a reasonable understanding of such items.

My question relates exclusively to the use of the LMCN as a
company ID, in place of a formal or full company name,
tradename, or trademark.  Since I happened to need to speak
to a person in UL's Label Services group this morning for
another issue, I put the question them; their response was
an emphatic NO.

So, unless Kris has something in writing from UL to support
the claim that the LMCN may be used as a company ID, that is
not a valid option.  Even if Kris does have something in
writing, the validity of that is questionable and the source
needs to be verified and the information cross-checked for
accuracy.


Regards,

Peter L. Tarver, PE
Product Safety Manager
Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services
San Jose, CA
[email protected]


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter L. Tarver
>
> Kris -
>
> I had enquired about use of the Listing Mark
> Control Number
> as a company ID some years ago and was told that it was
> unacceptable and that some other marking was required for
> traceability.  Do you have this in writing from UL?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter L. Tarver, PE
> Product Safety Manager
> Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services
> San Jose, CA
> [email protected]
>


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